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Old 11-29-2008, 02:10 PM
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Default Don't play the game as a mage - you will get bored quickly!

Blast-blast-blast-blast... blast-blast... blast...
Not to mention you actually need only 2-3 spells. I caught myself doing stupid things just for the sake of doing something different.
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Old 11-29-2008, 02:54 PM
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Blast-blast-blast-blast... blast-blast... blast...
Not to mention you actually need only 2-3 spells. I caught myself doing stupid things just for the sake of doing something different.
You are partially right, partially wrong. I am doing my first playthrough with a mage because i want to learn all the spells, units and game mechanics the comfortable way, without biting off my nails to the elbows. Early fireball is 'imba'? Don't use it, use something other if you are confident enough. Once i learn to play, i will restart the game and play it again, with the warrior, this time not on normal, but on hard (impossible is for geeks anyway ).

All in all, as the guru said: YMMW, your mileage may vary
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:20 PM
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I cannot agree, playing as a mage is a lot of fun thanks to various spells, but playing as a warrior getting me bored pretty fast.
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:06 PM
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As I wrote I sometimes did used different spells only to find out this was stupid.
But if the game becomes boring when playing a warrior this simply means the battles are too much. Indeed - many of the battles could be avoided but this means much less XP.
So it appears the game should have much more quests and more opportunities to earn XP without battles.
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Old 11-30-2008, 10:24 AM
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Blast-blast-blast-blast... blast-blast... blast...
Not to mention you actually need only 2-3 spells. I caught myself doing stupid things just for the sake of doing something different.
It depends on the difficulty level that you are playing at... Even at Normal Difficulty, "blast, blast, blast" doesn't really give you a flawless win in some high level areas because stacks are just too big and often have fire resistance.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:22 PM
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Maybe YOU get bored quickly. However, I for one greatly enjoyed being a mage. Using a combination of buffs/debuffs and chaos works quite well, and made the game different. As for having less battles in the game and more quests, while i agree that more quests would be nice, i would also like MORE battles. Considering the battles are pretty much the focus of the game, and the whole reason the game is worth playing, reducing the number of them is sheer idiocy, and would only serve to make the game less enjoyable. Without the battles, you are just someone uselessly running around without any challenge, doing menial errands for other people. Coming next fall: FedEx: The legend!
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:43 PM
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This is major flaw of MANY games Kings Bounty included. In the beginign every hut was giving ayt least 1 quest, some were giving even 2 or more. Once you go to the dwarves the quests are reduced significantly; and once you go past dwarves the quests are just 2-3 and the huts are giving only stuff. As I said it is common flaw of many games - in the beginning the devs put much efforts in the variety of the game, but once they "smell" the end they are quick to rush the game to the shelves.
As for the fire resistance... did I wrote "fire blast"? No. I wrote just "blast". Does it really matters if the blast is fire or water? That's why I wrote 2-3 spells. And why the hell you need buffs and debuffs? Why casting buffs or debufs when you can simply kill half the army instead? As I wrote sometimes I was casting useless spells like buffs/debuffs just for the sake of doing something different... only to find out I am doing stupid things instead of just blasting out the enemy army for 3-4 turns.
And don't explain me about the dragons. All the dragons besides black dragons are easily blasted with poison skull spell. Only the black dragons must be hacked to death which is easily done by stacks of the lowests creatures like swordmen. Just buy 2-3k swordmen and keep then in your reserve to replenish the dead.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:37 PM
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As for the number of battles, yes, I like fighting many. Having said that, many battles are very repetitive and boring, i.e. fighting an army comprised of the same units for the 10th time in a row (like in the Marshan Swamp cemetery), or fighting 5 armies in a row, all with really small numbers of dragonflies that could easily have been put together into one medium sized army, but the way it is just feels like they wanted to artificially prolong the playing time. This is just a minor gripe, though.
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Old 12-02-2008, 09:19 PM
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Whaaat?
I love my uber-mage!
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:15 PM
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Being bored is everyones personal subjective feeling.

I am bored by many games that others literaly love.

I personally hate "fedex" (I like this comparission) quests - but when I played KB for first time - each quest was unique and had very interesting background - so I was not bored by it at all.

I first time played Paladin - and even as I mostly used one spell (guess which) I was totally not bored, actually the oposite is true - I was delighted

next time I started Mage (as I hoped, I repeat : I HOPED that all battles will be BLAST BLAST, done!)
1.) I didn't get Ressurection till near end (and I greatly missed it, even if I wond with BLAST spells)
2.) few I did very weak damage with my BLAST spells and I had to rely on various spell combinations
3.) checking the Fan Maunal.pdf I realized I had only 75% spells (when I was on the head of the turtle - at the game end) and all my BLAST spells were more or less useless ... why?:

a) High damage spells can target only very limited number of stacks - but my enemies had 10+ stacks on huge battleground
b) High area spells were weaker + many of the enemy stacks were immune / highly resistant
c) even with max damage spells I was able to kill only 50% and less of ONE stack only (even if I used Fireball direct on Thorns... when there was 12K thorns in one stack... )
d) I could use Armageddon - (which is not always so easy to get, and some games I didn't find it at all) still : you damage your own units - soon you have to return back and refill your army -> that was reason enough for me not using it (having only one stack + gloth's armor works fine for armageddon, but may be not good enough to win the battle - unless you want "cheat" with invisibility )

All at all (by Gatts):
- I like playing for all three characters.
- I would love to win battles so easy as is stated in this topic [BLAST BLAST] , but on normal, hard and impossible it does not work that way... so I only am hoping in each battle to get more INT and better spells (on impossible you mostly don't have 3rd level of chaos magic so soon ... I have it above 15th level mostly... sometimes even later)
- I like even the quests in KB (even if now - for 100th time replay I do not read the texts... I know them already, but all the quest stories are very well - on level of good book, that is the point - you do "fedex" but get not only XP + GOLD but nice story as well... I love stories... you don't?)

"sob sob" I never had real ubermage (at least not on impossible) - I even had INT 75 once and was able to cast twice in first and second round and had chaos magic on 3rd level - still most battles were quite hard...far away for me to feel uber (even players that win battles with 0-loss policy use many glitches in the AI and game un-balanceness and play each battle in 20+ rounds... )
So where is the "easy - BLAST BLAST" ?

Is here anyone who played mage on impossible and finished each battle with BLAST BLAST in less than 3 rounds? If yes - I take the last paragraph back.
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