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Old 10-28-2012, 02:02 AM
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Default Check that all your guns on the Brit fighters are actually firing bullets

Just a heads up to check to see if all of your guns are actually firing bullets. I heard 1 or 2 pilots comment about how not all of their guns were actually firing bullets even tho the loadout was filled. I found this to be the case with a couple of my planes (I fly all of them from time to time). I found the 2 outside guns were actually firing bullets but the 2 inboard weren't even tho the flash was still coming out of the muzzles. So I had been flying around for who knows how long with only half my guns actually working. I didn't pick up on it earlier because I mostly only had tracers on my 2 outside guns. Some of my loadouts don't have tracers at all. To check my planes I created a multiplayer game and tested loadouts. Sure enuff some had the glitch. So I recreated the loadouts and did some testing with and without tracers (firing into the water to check for splash) until I ensured that all guns were actually sending out bullets. I need to do more testing along these lines but thought I would share this finding so u can all check.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:31 AM
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I personally don't understand how that could have happened.

Do you mean there were no bullet types at all loaded into some of your guns or the bullet types were there but 'glitched'?
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:43 AM
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Just a heads up to check to see if all of your guns are actually firing bullets. I heard 1 or 2 pilots comment about how not all of their guns were actually firing bullets even tho the loadout was filled. I found this to be the case with a couple of my planes (I fly all of them from time to time). I found the 2 outside guns were actually firing bullets but the 2 inboard weren't even tho the flash was still coming out of the muzzles. So I had been flying around for who knows how long with only half my guns actually working. I didn't pick up on it earlier because I mostly only had tracers on my 2 outside guns. Some of my loadouts don't have tracers at all. To check my planes I created a multiplayer game and tested loadouts. Sure enuff some had the glitch. So I recreated the loadouts and did some testing with and without tracers (firing into the water to check for splash) until I ensured that all guns were actually sending out bullets. I need to do more testing along these lines but thought I would share this finding so u can all check.
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Old 10-28-2012, 02:49 AM
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I know this is going to sound a bit too simplistic but are you sure it isn't just a tracer issue ie, the absence of tracer on some of the loadouts?
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Old 10-28-2012, 03:42 AM
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yes same problem, I was able to get all my guns Ammo Load-outs to work under the single missions, with the adjustments made in FMB. But that's the only place it will work.


see this post about it..

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35262
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Yep, just checked. Only my two outboard guns were actually shooting bullets, although all eight guns were showing muzzle flashes. Tested this over water....only two sets of splashes. Then I loaded the "default" loading -- eight sets of splashes on the water.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:38 AM
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Huge bug.

Someone ask Luthier to assign someone to solve this without we know, and put this "ghost" update on Steam, please...

It's a simple bug. Solve it, it's not "development os CloD", it's just consumers respect.

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yes same problem, I was able to get all my guns Ammo Load-outs to work under the single missions, with the adjustments made in FMB. But that's the only place it will work.


see this post about it..

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=35262
OK, I tried Mastiff's suggestion to adjust loadouts in FMB and it seems to work ie. the load outs carry over to online (ATAG Server #1).

Per his suggestion, I opened FMB, made a simple "mission", in this case just a Spitfire Mark 1a 100 octane over the English Channel. In Properties I designated it as the "player" aircraft, then still in Properties I clicked on the Load out button to bring up the load out menu for all 8 guns.

For testing purposes I chose different colour tracers for each of the 8 guns, along with the usual AP, deWilde, Ball VII, etc. Did a "save as", giving it a unique file name "Snappers brew" for quick identification. Hit OK. Did a quick test over the water; all guns were spewing out their tracers into the water. There is no provision to adjust horizontal/vertical convergence in FMB that I could see -- hitting Options/Plane/loadout when playing the mission within FMB doesn't allow you to do it.

Exited FMB, logged onto the ATAG Server. At Gravesend selected the Spitfire Mark 1a 100 octane and low and behold: Snappers brew was available as a loadout for this aircraft. A quick check verified the loadouts were exactly as I had assigned them in FMB. I could also now adjust convergences. I chose a wide dispersion from 1000 yards (outboard guns) down to 150 yards (inboard guns). No one was around , so I did a quick check sitting on the field -- easy to see all eight guns throwing their multi coloured strings of tracer. Presumably the other loads in with them (AP, deWilde, ball #VII) were also going out. Adjusted the convergence down to a more reasonable dispersion and went hunting. Shot down a 109, then got shot down myself in a suicide run over Occupied Manston airfield.

What a pain. But it seems to work. Lots better than shooting 2 guns out of 8, with the rest being blanks!
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OK, I tried Mastiff's suggestion to adjust loadouts in FMB and it seems to work ie. the load outs carry over to online (ATAG Server #1).

Per his suggestion, I opened FMB, made a simple "mission", in this case just a Spitfire Mark 1a 100 octane over the English Channel. In Properties I designated it as the "player" aircraft, then still in Properties I clicked on the Load out button to bring up the load out menu for all 8 guns.

For testing purposes I chose different colour tracers for each of the 8 guns, along with the usual AP, deWilde, Ball VII, etc. Did a "save as", giving it a unique file name "Snappers brew" for quick identification. Hit OK. Did a quick test over the water; all guns were spewing out their tracers into the water. There is no provision to adjust horizontal/vertical convergence in FMB that I could see -- hitting Options/Plane/loadout when playing the mission within FMB doesn't allow you to do it.

Exited FMB, logged onto the ATAG Server. At Gravesend selected the Spitfire Mark 1a 100 octane and low and behold: Snappers brew was available as a loadout for this aircraft. A quick check verified the loadouts were exactly as I had assigned them in FMB. I could also now adjust convergences. I chose a wide dispersion from 1000 yards (outboard guns) down to 150 yards (inboard guns). No one was around , so I did a quick check sitting on the field -- easy to see all eight guns throwing their multi coloured strings of tracer. Presumably the other loads in with them (AP, deWilde, ball #VII) were also going out. Adjusted the convergence down to a more reasonable dispersion and went hunting. Shot down a 109, then got shot down myself in a suicide run over Occupied Manston airfield.

What a pain. But it seems to work. Lots better than shooting 2 guns out of 8, with the rest being blanks!
Just to confirm mate, the damage you do with the 8 is more than the 2?

Just wondering if all this time I've been doing one quarter of the damage than what I should have been doing, or the game give the same either way?

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Just a heads up to check to see if all of your guns are actually firing bullets. I heard 1 or 2 pilots comment about how not all of their guns were actually firing bullets even tho the loadout was filled. I found this to be the case with a couple of my planes (I fly all of them from time to time). I found the 2 outside guns were actually firing bullets but the 2 inboard weren't even tho the flash was still coming out of the muzzles. So I had been flying around for who knows how long with only half my guns actually working. I didn't pick up on it earlier because I mostly only had tracers on my 2 outside guns. Some of my loadouts don't have tracers at all. To check my planes I created a multiplayer game and tested loadouts. Sure enuff some had the glitch. So I recreated the loadouts and did some testing with and without tracers (firing into the water to check for splash) until I ensured that all guns were actually sending out bullets. I need to do more testing along these lines but thought I would share this finding so u can all check.
Are you talking about online flying or single mission?
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