BoM should have playable demo

[RickRuski]

If the current state of affairs carries on for too much longer I think that the "Team" should seriously consider a free playable demo for BoM before releasing it to the market to assure their paying customers that they finaly have things fixed. The results of this beta patch are not convincing enough to get the largest part of the community behind them. Most of us were hoping to have a major improvement with this patch, but it hasn't happend for at least 50% of us. With the original Il2 series there was a playable demo available, this convinced a large % of the supportive community to try and then buy the series. With CoD there wasn't a demo, so we went in relying on what we thought we were going to get from the advertising and the good will that had been developed with the community. From a lot of threads and replies after patch 17582 most of the goodwill is starting to go down the gurgler. I hope things get better quickly, but I've stopped expecting too much too soon.

Have just noticed that RoF are due to release the "Channel" map, how far away would it be from adding a Hurricane or Spitfire and Bf109 to RoF. Once the support base for CoD starts losing it's followers it will be very difficult to get them back.

[KeBrAnTo]

+1

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by RickRuski

If the current state of affairs carries on for too much longer I think that the "Team" should seriously consider a free playable demo for BoM before releasing it to the market to assure their paying customers that they finaly have things fixed. The results of this beta patch are not convincing enough to get the largest part of the community behind them. Most of us were hoping to have a major improvement with this patch, but it hasn't happend for at least 50% of us. With the original Il2 series there was a playable demo available, this convinced a large % of the supportive community to try and then buy the series. With CoD there wasn't a demo, so we went in relying on what we thought we were going to get from the advertising and the good will that had been developed with the community. From a lot of threads and replies after patch 17582 most of the goodwill is starting to go down the gurgler. I hope things get better quickly, but I've stopped expecting too much too soon.

Have just noticed that RoF are due to release the "Channel" map, how far away would it be from adding a Hurricane or Spitfire and Bf109 to RoF. Once the support base for CoD starts losing it's followers it will be very difficult to get them back.

Good post and I agree totally...I was thinking the same in regards to what you said about ROF.

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by RickRuski

With CoD there wasn't a demo, so we went in relying on what we thought we were going to get from the advertising and the good will that had been developed with the community.

Wrong on many accounts. Many people read the CloD reviews and knew what they were buying. The prevailing motivating factor was the developper support of IL2 Sturmovik through the years. So far the support is there, though a bit different in terms of quality.

Once the support base for CoD starts losing it's followers it will be very difficult to get them back.

In a way, yes. People quit this game but they keep on checking if it is fixed. For now CloD needs a stable fanbase to keep the interest in. I`d say that counts for at least one squad member to fill in others on the updates. Once this title is stable and offers substantial content, others will jump right in. Time is not the biggest factor here.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Wrong on many accounts. Many people read the CloD reviews and knew what they were buying. The prevailing motivating factor was the developper support of IL2 Sturmovik through the years. So far the support is there, though a bit different in terms of quality.

well that might be your case mate, you can appreciate that there are also newcomers that were deceived by the fake specs and content promises.

[carguy_]

I understand you are saying that CloD was the first game ever to deceive people with systems specs and content promises. Ok.

[GOA_Potenz]

Originally Posted by carguy_

I understand you are saying that CloD was the first game ever to deceive people with systems specs and content promises. Ok.

Yes, but we all know that, this was a bad joke to all the guys here releasing the game in such state, then blame the epilepsy filter, and first say that those first videos with low FPS at the moscow expo were due to low RAM in the PC's, so even devs sustain their lie about the real state of the sim before release, this seems to be something normal in russia, as i remember something quite the same with RoF before it was owned by 777 studios, for me 777studios taking over CloD will be the best for CloD as they have proved to be a small but hard working and organized team.

[fruitbat]

so if Clod had had a playable demo, how many would have bought it???

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

well that might be your case mate, you can appreciate that there are also newcomers that were deceived by the fake specs and content promises.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this at least in part. In this day and age of forums, reviews, and easily obtained videos from readily accessable places on line, there's no reason to have stepped into CoD blindly. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I never buy something without checking it out first. While I'm as dissappointed as the next fellow regarding CoD, I knew what I was getting.

Could there be folks who happened to be shopping in their local Best Buy, saw CoD on the shelf and bought it because it looked flashy and within their specced PC's range? Yup. But I think those days and kind of buyers are fewer and farther between today, as compared to say, when IL2 was released.

I remember being fluffed by MSCFS3's graphical preview movie, but there wasn't any gameplay video released. How many were chuffed at how the game ran on their systems? I was. It looked nothing like the gameplay trailer. I bought it in haste and learned. ALWAYS review before purchasing. Today access to info is readily availible - much more than in 2002 when MSCFS was released.

As I said I have to disagree in part.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Robert

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this at least in part. In this day and age of forums, reviews, and easily obtained videos from readily accessable places on line, there's no reason to have stepped into CoD blindly. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I never buy something without checking it out first. While I'm as dissappointed as the next fellow regarding CoD, I knew what I was getting.

Could there be folks who happened to be shopping in their local Best Buy, saw CoD on the shelf and bought it because it looked flashy and within their specced PC's range? Yup. But I think those days and kind of buyers are fewer and farther between today, as compared to say, when IL2 was released.

I remember being fluffed by MSCFS3's graphical preview movie, but there wasn't any gameplay video released. How many were chuffed at how the game ran on their systems? I was. It looked nothing like the gameplay trailer. I bought it in haste and learned. ALWAYS review before purchasing. Today access to info is readily availible - much more than in 2002 when MSCFS was released.

As I said I have to disagree in part.

yeah sure. Now go here and read the minimum and recommended specs again

It's deceiving to say the least, don't you think? If I go to the Ubisoft website and browse through the games, it takes me to the official page, which just like the current status of the sim, is a farce.

But hey, we're sitting here patiently, we have for more than a year now..