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Old 06-08-2012, 12:08 PM
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Default Ammo against 109?

Hey there!

I am currently looking for a effective ammo-settings against 109´s for the spit / Hurri. I once had a pretty good setting which blew up the 109s engine within (+/-)a second but I accidentally deletet it when i reinstalled the game...

So what are you using? And what is effective against bombers as well?

I appreciate any help, thank you!

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I go for tracers in 1st and 8th guns,so these are your furthest spaced guns,I then stick in armour piercing rounds in the 4th and 5th guns,so these being your closest guns to you.

In all the rest of the guns your 2nd,3rd,6th and 7th I've got the De Wilde incendiary rounds,works for me.

But experiment,experiment and experiment,also ensure your convergence is honed too,I have 136 vertical x 228 horizontal,but again you need to experiment to find out what works for you,dial in the enemy wingspan into the gunsight and go get 'em.

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Old 06-08-2012, 03:06 PM
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preatty much wha JRB said

1 - 8 Tracer + icendiary ( 1 -1 ratio , red and yellow for the cool factor)
2 - 7 Icendiary.
3 - 6 Armour piercing.
4 - 5 Armour piercing.

convergence set at 100 meters our 150 meters. aim at the engine.
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:05 AM
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By far most effective round against bombers is the dewilde but currently it produces unrealistic results where you can blow off the wing of a bomber with a split second burst. Load all guns with dewilde and it literally becomes a shower of wings...
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Old 06-09-2012, 05:15 AM
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Maybe it's not the fact that the rounds are unrealistic, but that we can use as many of them as we like resulting in unrealistic loadouts.

What happens with DeWilde for the RAF can be reproduced with M-shells for the Luftwaffe. In reality, there wasn't unlimited supply of the "best" ammo types and pilots were forced to mix and match due to availability concerns.

Maybe a set of realism options down the road can help us with this. Having some preset historical loadouts as well as the ability to change them, but with some restrictions, would be the way to go. For example, restrictions could be to the tune of "x % of such and such rounds" or "X of such type of rounds in every 10 rounds total".

From what i've been seeing thus far, flying with the default loadouts doesn't produce results that seem unrealistic and this leads me to believe that the rounds themselves and the aircraft DMs are not bad at all. That's why i'm thinking that maybe it's us "gaming the game" that results in too many explosions
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:30 AM
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Maybe it's not the fact that the rounds are unrealistic, but that we can use as many of them as we like resulting in unrealistic loadouts.

What happens with DeWilde for the RAF can be reproduced with M-shells for the Luftwaffe. In reality, there wasn't unlimited supply of the "best" ammo types and pilots were forced to mix and match due to availability concerns.

Maybe a set of realism options down the road can help us with this. Having some preset historical loadouts as well as the ability to change them, but with some restrictions, would be the way to go. For example, restrictions could be to the tune of "x % of such and such rounds" or "X of such type of rounds in every 10 rounds total".

From what i've been seeing thus far, flying with the default loadouts doesn't produce results that seem unrealistic and this leads me to believe that the rounds themselves and the aircraft DMs are not bad at all. That's why i'm thinking that maybe it's us "gaming the game" that results in too many explosions
But the DM is still buggy, or am i wrong? You can still fly over the whole channel with a broken cooling-sytem, which is not realistic in my opinion...

Thanks for your the help, I will try your suggestions!
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Maybe it's not the fact that the rounds are unrealistic, but that we can use as many of them as we like resulting in unrealistic loadouts.

What happens with DeWilde for the RAF can be reproduced with M-shells for the Luftwaffe. In reality, there wasn't unlimited supply of the "best" ammo types and pilots were forced to mix and match due to availability concerns.

Maybe a set of realism options down the road can help us with this. Having some preset historical loadouts as well as the ability to change them, but with some restrictions, would be the way to go. For example, restrictions could be to the tune of "x % of such and such rounds" or "X of such type of rounds in every 10 rounds total".
I see a 200 post thread about the historic percentage of deWilde ammo available already lurking ...
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preatty much wha JRB said

1 - 8 Tracer + icendiary ( 1 -1 ratio , red and yellow for the cool factor)
2 - 7 Icendiary.
3 - 6 Armour piercing.
4 - 5 Armour piercing.

convergence set at 100 meters our 150 meters. aim at the engine.
I tried your set-up (although not the red/yellow part), aimed at the engines, and am knocking them off! I cut a 109 in half, the other night. With limited ammo, I can take down three twin-engined bombers per flight.

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Does anybody know what "reserve ammo" means?
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Does anybody know what "reserve ammo" means?
If you mean 'Residue ammo' its where you can set the last rounds of your ammo belt to be different from the rest. For instance on one or two guns you could set a residue of 50 rounds white tracer to let you know you are running out of ammo.
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