Still Soooo Porked

[smink1701]

Now that the developers seem to have a handle on making the game more playable, I sincerely hope they will get on to all the things that need attention.

Was flying a QM yesterday and gut right up on a Stuka, emptied my guns, saw everything but the kitchen sink come off the plane...and it just flew on like nothing happened. This and MANY, MANY other things are just immersion killers. AI is better but still not nearly as good as it needs to be. Not as good as IL2 1946, ROF or BOB2. I never get the sense that I am fighting with real pilots. Another immersion killer.

Please keep up the good work and hopefully this game will be worth playing one day.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by smink1701

I never get the sense that I am fighting with real pilots. Another immersion killer.

I'm not sure it's even possible to write an AI that will be as good or as realistic as a real pilot. It's too bad, really.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I'm not sure it's even possible to write an AI that will be as good or as realistic as a real pilot. It's too bad, really.

BoB2 in it's current state comes quite close imho. At least in that, the AI makes mistakes and
doesn't fly perfectly 100% of time.

[Gabelschwanz Teufel]

Originally Posted by Dowly

BoB2 in it's current state comes quite close imho. At least in that, the AI makes mistakes and
doesn't fly perfectly 100% of time.

None better.

[GraveyardJimmy]

One thing I would say is that you cant expect to destroy aircraft easily. Looking at wikipedia (not the best source I realise) I saw this on "disaster" for Stukas:

28 Stukas of I./StG 77 were attacked by No. 43 and 601 Squadron sporting a force of 18 Hurricanes. The escorting Bf 109s from II./JG 27 were flying too far away and could not stop the Hurricanes making an attack before the Ju 87s made their dives. Three Ju 87s were shot down in exchange for a damaged Hurricane, hit by return fire.

So when 18 hurricanes attacked without fighter opposition, they downed 3 aircraft. One on one, especially from behind, possibly shouldn't see a destroyed aircraft, despite the hits you managed.

[CWMV]

There is a reason the 8x.303 armament was ditched.

[trademe900]

Originally Posted by GraveyardJimmy

One thing I would say is that you cant expect to destroy aircraft easily. Looking at wikipedia (not the best source I realise) I saw this on "disaster" for Stukas:



So when 18 hurricanes attacked without fighter opposition, they downed 3 aircraft. One on one, especially from behind, possibly shouldn't see a destroyed aircraft, despite the hits you managed.

I beg to differ!

Have a good read through the many, many combat reports around and you will see that the 8x .303 was ferocious at close range in real life... a incredible amount of rounds tearing through planes with authority and more often than not resulting in belching thick clouds of smoke, fires or even severing tail sections!!

Given this evidence it is quite ridiculous in the current porked state to get over 200 solid hits at deflection on a 109 only to have him glide back to base with a stuttering engine. You can even put 1000 solid hits into an he111 and have it cruise back to france with little difficulty, quite absurd seeing as the most notable record of bomber survival for this period was the Do17z that took over 200 hits. Let's

One other thing to add is that the differences in ammo loadout can yield very strange results... try loading every gun with dewilde and watch as you blow the wings off an He111 with a split second burst- everytime. Il2 1946 is still far more well rounded in the damage model as is but this has good potential should these glaring bugs be attended to.

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by smink1701

Now that the developers seem to have a handle on making the game more playable, I sincerely hope they will get on to all the things that need attention.

Was flying a QM yesterday and gut right up on a Stuka, emptied my guns, saw everything but the kitchen sink come off the plane...and it just flew on like nothing happened. This and MANY, MANY other things are just immersion killers. AI is better but still not nearly as good as it needs to be. Not as good as IL2 1946, ROF or BOB2. I never get the sense that I am fighting with real pilots. Another immersion killer.

Please keep up the good work and hopefully this game will be worth playing one day.

Ha ha, lots of armor there, in fact well armored behind and below the rear gunner so that attacks from directly behind and below are less effective...take out controls, pilot, radiator...just wait till the il-2 shows up, flying tank for sure

[He111]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Ha ha, lots of armor there, in fact well armored behind and below the rear gunner so that attacks from directly behind and below are less effective...take out controls, pilot, radiator...just wait till the il-2 shows up, flying tank for sure

I never knew the Stuka was SO well armoured. So when britsih pilots talked of a "Stuka Party" they ment something else?

Yeah, i cannot wait for the sky tank either - cementer! Iwonder why the Russians didn't place fixed guns facing rearwards with a periscope aimer, just like the Arado jet bomber, would have saved weight of a rear-gunner!

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[bowlesy]

I have noticed in CLOD that it is very rare to see planes on fire compared to other sims. When you do it looks really nice though! I mainly fly British planes so maybe this will change in the future when the 20mm come into play?