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Old 08-21-2010, 01:59 PM
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Default nazi info real or fiction?

dear 1c i like when in 1il-2 sturmovik you insert LUFT 46 airplane secret airplane

i whant a little space in SOW over insert modern aircaft or experimental or strange airplane Exmple Hanaeubu III.


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Old 08-21-2010, 02:02 PM
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:32 PM
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After seing successful jet fighter prototype in early war days and rocket technology which was just a dream for other countries, it is far from being fiction for me. Yes, it is possible i think.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:36 PM
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After seing successful jet fighter prototype in early war days and rocket technology which was just a dream for other countries, it is far from being fiction for me. Yes, it is possible i think.
In case you hadn't noticed, both rockets and jets were being worked on elsewhere.

The whole thing is utter drivel, based on 'evidence' cooked up in the 1950s to sell books to the gullible. Sadly, the internet provides an easy medium for nonsense like this to find more suckers...
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Old 08-22-2010, 02:41 AM
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Some anti-gravity thing? NO way.

But the US did do some pretty extensive research on saucer shaped aircraft (some got off the ground) and there were a lot of "strange sightings" of such aircraft in the 50's. In my mind, those things mean that the US got some knowledge out of WWII and tried to expand on it. How successful were the US scientists? We still don't know.

There are MANY problems that would need to be worked out with saucer shaped aircraft but also some advantages if you could work out the problems. Again though....who knows?

What is absolutely certain is that the US has put some pretty radical aircraft in the air since WWII. How much came from the Nazis? Hard to say, but we know we got a lot of rocket technology from them.

Also, I guess it is important to note that the Nazis put a ton of resources into "super weapons" that either never worked or did not return results commensurate with the resources devoted. Clearly, Germany had some very brilliant scientists working on their end whether their programs were productive or not.

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I guess that´s a bit too much even for a "what if..."
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Old 08-22-2010, 02:55 AM
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There are MANY problems that would need to be worked out with saucer shaped aircraft but also some advantages if you could work out the problems. Again though....who knows?
And what exactly are these supposed advantages?

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Germany had some very brilliant scientists working on their end whether their programs were productive or not.
True. But none of them have ever been shown to have worked on 'flying saucers'.

Actually, I think a lot of the later 'super-weapons' programs of Nazi Germany were driven more by ideological zeal and the forlorn hope for a 'war-winning-weapon' than by any real understanding of technological, logistic and military requirements. While the 'brilliant scientists' were still at work, the Nazi machine could use them as a symbol of hope, and no sane scientist would admit their aims were futile - a short trip to the Eastern front would be the likely result.
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After seing successful jet fighter prototype in early war days and rocket technology which was just a dream for other countries, it is far from being fiction for me. Yes, it is possible i think.
So let me see if I understand your logic correctly..

Your saying the Germans were capable of making flying saucers because the Germans had made jets and rockets

Is that the jist of it?

Based on that logic the USA was also capable of making flying saucers..

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Because Robert Goddard was making and flying rockets back in the 1920s. As a mater of fact many of Robert Goddards inventions (patents) ended up on the V2. Von Braun himself said

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von Braun, reflecting on the history of rocketry, said of Goddard: "His rockets … may have been rather crude by present-day standards, but they blazed the trail and incorporated many features used in our most modern rockets and space vehicles
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Consider this.. it took the Germans years to work out the bugs in the Me262. Where as it only took months for the USA to build one (P80) once they were tasked to do so. I know a lot of folks belive the Me262 was 'delayed' due to Hitler wanting to convert it into a bomber.. but that is just not the case. Or would you have us belive it took the Germans a couple of years to figure out how to install bomb racks on the Me262? Silly right? Thus the fact of the mater is the jet engines were the core problem, so big a problem that the Germans were forced to convert the Me262 from a straight wing design to a swept wing design to shift the cg back due to the heavier than expected engines. I know I know a lot of folks also belive the Me262 was not only the first jet but the first swept wing design.. but that is not the case either. The wings were swept back to correct the cg

In summary, I think your logic is flawed upon closer inspection
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:24 AM
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some people really need to go anyway and brush up on their History...btw Oleg are can we have x-wing fighters with hyper-drives. I heard the Germans were working on them towards the end of the war
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