I hate the wrong data in Il2 strmovik 1946

[SturmKreator]

I hate the erroneus data....... Why oleg put the performances so balanced avoiding the reality? Why they do that, your game is good, but with such data, not worth purchase the game, that is one of the reasons, because I regret having bought, what if I had bought real data, yesterday we played with some friends, one of They were in bf109 g2 and I in a fw190-D9, fighting to 6000 meters, the bf109 g2 was clearly faster than my fw 190 d9. Why it happens?, if you wonder if it was in a server with mods this is false, as well as tested with a TA and the same thing happened. be will avalaible some patch for correct that?, My English suck I know.

[IceFire]

Others may disagree with me but this game is not balanced. There are definitely mistakes in information here and there but its not balanced so that all planes fly the same or all sides have an even fight.

You have to realize that IL-2 is many things:
1) The most realistic WWII flight combat simulator yet
2) Has the most number of flyable WWII aircraft in one product yet (officially - not counting CFS2/3 mods)
3) Has the most realistic attempt at doing proper flight modeling as well as correct modeling of physics for things like bullet ballistics, explosions, etc.

And given all of these things IL-2 succeeds EXTREMELY well. It is extremely good. It is, however, not perfect and has many flaws.

But people have to realize that because IL-2 does things properly like modeling engine power and real flight physics that its not as simple as saying that a Bf109 at 5000 meters flies at X top speed. Somewhere in behind the flight model they are doing things like air density versus engine power and all of those smaller details. Its a much more realistic and fluid experience but it sometimes means that the data doesn't match 100% with test data.

I'm all for making things more correct but its never going to be 100%.

Also the pilot flying the plane makes a big difference in how fast one is. There may be problems but a Bf109G-2 cannot fly as fast as a FW190D-9 at maximum speed at a medium altitude. Someone was doing something wrong there. Not trimming or operating the engine properly. Remember that the pilot is one of the biggest equations in how a plane flies.

Try participating in air racing. Everyone flies the same plane yet some will fly faster than others...the game is modeled so well that proper piloting will get you better performance.

[MOH_Hirth]

Yes, this is the MUST FIX fix in 4.09m, this must be a Oficial standart, the FM is very acurate but can find litle detail to fix, in engine performace yes, have wrong data but this is a easy work to 1C, Why they dont sell this? I am tired wait, pls 1C sell this patch, this wait is a torture.

[SlipBall]

(icefire quote)
the game is modeled so well that proper piloting will get you better performance.



No truer words have been said

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by IceFire

Others may disagree with me but this game is not balanced. There are definitely mistakes in information here and there but its not balanced so that all planes fly the same or all sides have an even fight.

You have to realize that IL-2 is many things:
1) The most realistic WWII flight combat simulator yet
2) Has the most number of flyable WWII aircraft in one product yet (officially - not counting CFS2/3 mods)
3) Has the most realistic attempt at doing proper flight modeling as well as correct modeling of physics for things like bullet ballistics, explosions, etc.

And given all of these things IL-2 succeeds EXTREMELY well. It is extremely good. It is, however, not perfect and has many flaws.

But people have to realize that because IL-2 does things properly like modeling engine power and real flight physics that its not as simple as saying that a Bf109 at 5000 meters flies at X top speed. Somewhere in behind the flight model they are doing things like air density versus engine power and all of those smaller details. Its a much more realistic and fluid experience but it sometimes means that the data doesn't match 100% with test data.

I'm all for making things more correct but its never going to be 100%.

Also the pilot flying the plane makes a big difference in how fast one is. There may be problems but a Bf109G-2 cannot fly as fast as a FW190D-9 at maximum speed at a medium altitude. Someone was doing something wrong there. Not trimming or operating the engine properly. Remember that the pilot is one of the biggest equations in how a plane flies.

Try participating in air racing. Everyone flies the same plane yet some will fly faster than others...the game is modeled so well that proper piloting will get you better performance.

ok, think what you want this to be true, I've been playing this game and I realized that if the planes are balanced, the Fw190 is the best airplane and put it well below its actual performance, the best accelerated fw190 The mustang under the 6000 meters and this does not happen in the game

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

They were in bf109 g2 and I in a fw190-D9, fighting to 6000 meters, the bf109 g2 was clearly faster than my fw 190 d9. Why it happens?

The difference at this altitude between the two planes is ca 30 km/h (for the D-9), different radiator flap settings, slideslip, a tiny bit of climb while the others are level or descending, having a droptank rack etc. can easily account for such difference.

[MOH_Hirth]

In my old post i test Ta-152c at 6000.............475KM/h and FW A9 480km/h = wrong

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by MOH_Hirth

In my old post i test Ta-152c at 6000.............475KM/h and FW A9 480km/h = wrong

if it is insane to think that an FW190A9 is faster than a TA 152, whether it was the replacement of Fw190 D9, Oleg data is very wrong, but the LA is a magic plane

[K_Freddie]

What I think you're missing with regard to the modelling, are the aircraft relative performances. This has been modelled pretty well.

I might ask you at what difficulty settings and which map are you testing your planes. Crimea is the official test map, and I would think 100% setting would be the test reality.

Another point about 'reality' is that there is only data on paper to go by, plus a few relic aircraft. And then old veteran's comments, which invariably are biased.
So all-in-all, You now have the best combat prop-sim in your hands - period ( Most probably the the worlds best sim).

And of course you can always throw the disks in the bin - just make sure you don't empty the bin, coz you will be digging into the bin after a few weeks (of MSFSim, LockOn, other inferior products ).

[K_Freddie]

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

if it is insane to think that an FW190A9 is faster than a TA 152, whether it was the replacement of Fw190 D9, Oleg data is very wrong, but the LA is a magic plane

Google TA152 and find out more details... as an example from the 1940 Bob period in comparing Spit-vs-ME109. the a/c were very similar on most respects and one outperformed the other at different altitudes and tactics....

with regard to the LA... you really must make up you mind about Oleg's data..