Annoying problem on game loading

Pips · #1 09-20-2009, 07:28 AM

My Il-2 1946 was getting very cluttered with skins, new aircraft etc, so I decided to uninstall it and start from scratch with a fresh install from the DVD. And it brought home a problem I've had forever, but until now simply put up with it.

So I thought I would ask here to see if others have had the same problem and if there's a solution. Other than this one problem the game performs fine.

When I start IL-2, it opens at the Main Menu (intro movie disabled). Music is playing but the mouse cursor is frozen, so I can't select any buttons. I have to Alt>Esc to drop the game to desktop and then click on the icon in the toolbar to reopen it. Cursor then works as normal. This used to always happen in my old install, as well as the new re-install, which id patched to 4.09beta.

Any suggestions?

My system is a Intel D CPU 3.00Ghz with 2 gig RAM, Windows XP patched to SP3, Radeon ATI HD4850.

FAE_Cazador · #2 09-20-2009, 10:31 AM

Same here from the very beggining of the IL-2 saga, but randomly. I have never known why. Along 3 different rigs I have used, with Intel & AMD CPUs, and ATI & Nvidia graphica cards. IMHO it is bug, never fixed.

Igo kyu · #3 09-20-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pips

My Il-2 1946 was getting very cluttered with skins, new aircraft etc, so I decided to uninstall it and start from scratch with a fresh install from the DVD. And it brought home a problem I've had forever, but until now simply put up with it.

So I thought I would ask here to see if others have had the same problem and if there's a solution. Other than this one problem the game performs fine.

When I start IL-2, it opens at the Main Menu (intro movie disabled). Music is playing but the mouse cursor is frozen, so I can't select any buttons. I have to Alt>Esc to drop the game to desktop and then click on the icon in the toolbar to reopen it. Cursor then works as normal. This used to always happen in my old install, as well as the new re-install, which id patched to 4.09beta.

Any suggestions?

My system is a Intel D CPU 3.00Ghz with 2 gig RAM, Windows XP patched to SP3, Radeon ATI HD4850.

I think I get that, if I move the mouse while the program is loading (i.e. up until the time the picture of planes gives way to the main menu). I'm not certain I still get it, I am very cautious about moving that mouse.

KG26_Alpha · #4 09-20-2009, 12:00 PM

Could you post your IL2 1946 conf.ini's here.

It might be something in there that needs a tweak.

Pips · #5 09-20-2009, 01:32 PM

Sure, be more than happy to Alpha! Any help is greatly appreciated.

Here it is:

[il2]
title=Il2-Sturmovik Forgotten Battles
hotkeys=HotKey game

[window]
width=1280
height=960
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=1
Use3Renders=0

[GLPROVIDER]
GL=Opengl32.dll

[GLPROVIDERS]
Open GL=Opengl32.dll
DirectX=dx8wrap.dll

[NET]
speed=5000
routeChannels=0
serverChannels=31
localPort=21000
remotePort=21000
SkinDownload=1
serverName=No Name
serverDescription=
remoteHost=
localHost=
socksHost=
checkServerTimeSpeed=1
checkClientTimeSpeed=0

[MaxLag]
farMaxLagTime=10.0
nearMaxLagTime=2.0
cheaterWarningDelay=5.0
cheaterWarningNum=-1

[chat]
region=(dx=0.6925,dy=0.071666665,x=0.0,y=0.0)

[game]
Arcade=0
HighGore=0
mapPadX=0.6689453
mapPadY=-0.046875
viewSet=34
Intro=1
NoSubTitles=0
NoChatter=0
NoHudLog=0
NoLensFlare=0
iconTypes=3
eventlog=eventlog.lst
eventlogkeep=0
3dgunners=1

[HotKey game]
PrintScreen=ScreenShot
P=pause
Pause=pause

[HotKey gui]
Escape=activate

[HookViewFly Config]
timeFirstStep=2.0
deltaZ=10.0

[HookView]
MouseLeft=Len

[HookView Config]
AzimutSpeed=0.1
TangageSpeed=0.1
LenSpeed=1.0
MinLen=1.0
DefaultLen=20.0
MaxLen=3000.0
Speed=6

[HotKey builder]
MouseLeft=objectMove
MouseRight=popupmenu
Enter=freeView
Shift MouseLeft=worldZoom
Alt MouseLeft=select+
Alt MouseRight=select-
Alt Ctrl=unselect
PageDown=change+
PageUp=change-
End=change++
Home=change--
Ctrl MouseLeft=insert+
Insert=insert+
NumPad-0=insert+
F=fill
Ctrl MouseRight=delete+
NumPad.=delete+
Delete=delete+
Backspace=cursor
Tab=cursor
F10=land
F11=onLand
NumPad-=normalLand
NumPad+=toLand
NumPad-5=resetAngles
NumPad-8=resetTangage90
NumPad-7=stepAzimut-5
NumPad-4=stepAzimut-15
NumPad-1=stepAzimut-30
NumPad-9=stepAzimut5
NumPad-6=stepAzimut15
NumPad-3=stepAzimut30

[MouseXYZ]
F1=SpeedSlow
F2=SpeedNormal
F3=SpeedFast
MouseRight=XYmove
F4 MouseRight=Zmove
MouseMiddle=Amove
F5 MouseRight=Amove
F6 MouseRight=Tmove
F7 MouseRight=Kmove

[MouseXYZ Config]
RealTime=1

[HotKey Console]
Shift Tab=Activate
[Console]
HISTORY=1024
HISTORYCMD=1024
LOAD=console.cmd
SAVE=console.cmd
LOG=0
LOGTIME=0
LOGFILE=log.lst
LOGKEEP=0

[sound]
SoundUse=1
SoundEngine=1
Speakers=0
Placement=0
SoundFlags.reversestereo=0
RadioFlags.Enabled=1
RadioEngine=2
MusicVolume=8
ObjectVolume=14
MusState.takeoff=1
MusState.inflight=1
MusState.crash=1
MusFlags.play=1
MasterVolume=14
Attenuation=7
SoundMode=3
SamplingRate=2
NumChannels=0
SoundExt.occlusions=0
SoundFlags.hardware=1
SoundFlags.streams=1
SoundFlags.duplex=1
SoundExt.acoustics=0
SoundExt.volumefx=0
SoundFlags.voicemgr=0
SoundFlags.static=1
VoiceVolume=12
Channels=2
SoundExt.extrender=0
SoundFlags.bugscorrect=0
SoundSetupId=8
ActivationLevel=0.02
Preemphasis=0.85
RadioLatency=0.5
AGC=1
PTTMode=1
SoundFlags.UseRadioChatter=0
SoundFlags.AutoActivation=0
RadioFlags.PTTMode=0
RadioFlags.PlayClicks=0
ActLevel=0
MicLevel=0
SoundFlags.forceEAX1=0

[rts]
;ProcessAffinityMask=1
mouseUse=2
joyUse=1
trackIRUse=1
DisableIME=0
locale=

[rts_mouse]
SensitivityX=1.0
SensitivityY=1.0
Invert=0
SensitivityZ=1.0

[rts_joystick]
X=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Y=0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 0
Z=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
RZ=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
FF=1
U=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
V=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1X=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1Y=0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 0
1RZ=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1U=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0
1V=0 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 0

[Render_DirectX]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=2
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=0
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=0

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=4
ForceShaders1x=0
PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=0
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=0
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=0

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=2
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=2
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=1
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

WWFlybert · #6 09-20-2009, 02:39 PM

Alpha,

In game cursor freeze happens to everyone I know, maybe 1 in 20 times it does not.

I play almost exclusively online, to get the yellow game cursor to free up in game, I hit Window key which brings up start menu, and alt+tab to bring up backround application such as HL or TS .. after usually 2-3 times doing this, game screen finally drops from desktop. Then when I hit IL-2 tab in taskbar, bring back up game screen, in game cursor is freed.

a solution would be most welcome

nearmiss · #7 09-20-2009, 04:49 PM

I've experienced this since... FB.

Probably my own fault, because I'm impatient after waiting for the IL2 to load.

If I were more patient it would probably work it's way through it.

Regardless, I alt+tab screen goes to DT and then I alt+tab again back into IL2. I usually do this once and cursor works.

Igo Kyu mentioned about NOT moving the mouse when IL2 is loading. I remember that has helped as well.

Regardless, the alt+tab works fine and it's only a couple keystrokes to fix it.

KG26_Alpha · #8 09-20-2009, 06:55 PM

@ Pips

I see a few things that need altering up in your conf ini, before posting any changes. what graphics card manufacturer are you using and what CPU please, also what monitor, widescreen or normal ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWFlybert

Alpha,

In game cursor freeze happens to everyone I know, maybe 1 in 20 times it does not.

I play almost exclusively online, to get the yellow game cursor to free up in game, I hit Window key which brings up start menu, and alt+tab to bring up backround application such as HL or TS .. after usually 2-3 times doing this, game screen finally drops from desktop. Then when I hit IL-2 tab in taskbar, bring back up game screen, in game cursor is freed.

a solution would be most welcome

This is usually solved by pulling up the chat screen and hitting esc, or sometimes having to type something then close the chat window, the mouse then returns to normal use in game also sometimes the map view gets stuck due to being out of sync trying to close the chat window/map.

MaXMhZ · #9 09-20-2009, 07:02 PM

Had mouse freeze here too. It might be of interest to know what pointing device is used.

I have no more freeze since I use a laser mouse.

It is definitely not conf.ini related. The mouse looses focus when it is moved in any way during startup.

Optical mice are known to "jitter". This might be detected as movement -> freeze

Laser mice are a lot better in this. So are mechanical mice or pen tablets (e.g. Wacom).

FAE_Cazador · #10 09-20-2009, 08:58 PM

My present mouse is a Laser and it happens too. Last one was a Logitech optical and it happened too. And before I can remember I had a ball-mouse and happened as well.

I am thinking now if it won't be a curse !