noob to Il2 Sturmovik COD- virtually unplayable- need help/advice please!

TheSelf · #1 06-26-2012, 09:09 AM

Hi all,

Just purchased this game- on a disc- yet it connected to my steam account and downloaded and installed via my steam account to version 1.05.15950 today- I have read about the really bad performance issues 'out the box', but thought these have been fixed by now or at least improved and not as bad as what I have experienced so far...- I have pretty high specs- intel i7 CPU 965 3.33GHz (slightly overclocked), 12 GB RAM, Nvidia GTX 590, fast HDDs (in RAID 0) and Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit- even though I can play Battlefield 3 & Flight Simulator X on 3 monitors at 5760x1080 resolution and high video settings with the same system & just this week I had to change the original hard drives of that system and install Windows and all my programs, drivers etc from scratch as a clean install (Il 2 Sturmovik is the first game I've installed back on this 'clean' system).. I cannot play Il2 Sturmovik COD even at 1920x1080 resolution at the very lowest settings (no anti aliasing, no vsync, no grass etc- and details all at 'very low'- I started all with very high on 3 monitors and worked my way down to the very lowest- the frame rates are unplayable and too slow- I saw someone on YouTube with the same version of the game and similar specs to me and it looked good and was running smoothly- what am I doing wrong? If I installed Patch 1.06.17582- will that make that much difference and how do the patches work (do I need to install anything else beyond version 1.05.15950 to make 1.06.17582 install properly)? What functionality will I lose by installing the patch- multiplayer? Is it possible to revert back if the beta patch is too unstable?

As this has been installed after a clean install of windows etc- I am currently reinstalling BF3 as a benchmark to ensure everything is in order on that front, but am anticipating (hopefully) that everything is in working order & Il-2 COD is to be addressed solely..

These questions probably have been answered elsewhere in this forum- but a general search comes up with 100s of pages-I honestly do not have the time to trawl through all those pages just to the game going in a playable state from the get go- I cannot find a page on clear steps to take to optimize this game 'out the box' to run smoothly other than install beta patches.. and would greatly appreciate any generous person's feedback to help me just get going as this is ridiculous to be this unplayable 'out the box' so long after it's release and with so many updates, unless something is up..

Thanking you greatly in advance!

ATAG_MajorBorris · #2 06-26-2012, 12:10 PM

Hi Theself,

The triple monitor setup may require triple sli gtx 580 3gb to get 60fps and that’s if sli were working perfect (maybe the next patch) to have settings at max.

Comparing CoD to a console port or FSX, which is 6 years old is a little unfair but your system will provide a playable experience I’m just not sure if it can do the 3 monitor setup yet without bringing the graphic settings down.

The choice between 3 monitors at reduced eye candy/resolution or one that looks great is yours

Below is some explanations of the settings tweaks by Luthier

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19819

For a full walk through of tweaks we can help you on the ATAG Ts3 coms too : ) just say when...

TheSelf · #3 06-26-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ATAG_MajorBorris

Hi Theself,

The triple monitor setup may require triple sli gtx 580 3gb to get 60fps and that’s if sli were working perfect (maybe the next patch) to have settings at max.

Comparing CoD to a console port or FSX, which is 6 years old is a little unfair but your system will provide a playable experience I’m just not sure if it can do the 3 monitor setup yet without bringing the graphic settings down.

The choice between 3 monitors at reduced eye candy/resolution or one that looks great is yours

Below is some explanations of the settings tweaks by Luthier

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19819

For a full walk through of tweaks we can help you on the ATAG Ts3 coms too : ) just say when...

thanks very much for your reply Major Borris- that link was helpful and point # 15 'Note about Aero Desktop Composition' and disabling desktop composition seemed to make all the difference- that was the only change I made after which I got it running smoothly with everything maxed out at 1920x1080 and can run even with Nvidia 3D Vision just about- and even medium graphical settings at 5760x1080 triple monitors- so much more satisfying- thanks so much!

(PS- after finally installing again onto this 'clean' system- to confirm, BF3 also runs normally after installing so no issues beyond Il-2)

I'd love to take you up on your offer for a full walkthrough on other tweaks etc to optimize this sim to the max- what is the ATAG Ts3 coms and what do I need to do to proceed?

Is it worth installing Patch 1.06.17582? Does it improve framerate further? Can we still play multiplayer with beta patches or are there any limitations with the beta patches and how can we uninstall the patches back to the version I'm at now if the patches cause instability? Also interested in any mods for improved sound effects, particularly of the machine guns/cannons etc and playing online, flying in formation with squadrons online etc-seems like a steep learning curve with this sim, but I'm about to learn to fly for real in life and hope it complements this game

With gratitude

ATAG_Bliss · #4 06-26-2012, 09:55 PM

Hi TheSelf - everything you need to know to setup TS3 along with how to join etc is all right here: http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/forum.php

Troll2k · #5 06-26-2012, 10:01 PM

I do not have either SLI or Crossfire but from what I have gathered theses do not wok properly in Clod at the moment.

The GT 590 is essentially an SLI platform on one card.

If it is possible I would try to turn off one GPU and go to a single monitor until things are improved.

ATAG_Bliss · #6 06-26-2012, 10:14 PM

The patch made SLI worse, but I heard from a few crossfire users they are running at a much better frame rate.

ATAG_MajorBorris · #7 06-26-2012, 11:52 PM

Thanks Bliss for the the help!

Sounds like we have a real flyer on our hands, now we just have to get him in the cockpit on the ATAG server

TheSelf, just let us know when you want to get on Ts3 and we can make that learning curve less steep.

I think the answer to your questions is mostly yes!

See ya in the air!

TheSelf · #8 06-27-2012, 03:17 PM

thanks everyone for your help- in it's current state the GTX 590 is running in SLI- it was disabling the aero 'desktop composition' that helped (this doesn't affect aero in windows in general does it- only in COD- correct?)- have yet to try without SLI- running off of one GPU- are you saying disabling SLI and running off of only 1 GPU will actually increase frame rates? I seem to be discovering about lack of support for SLI for some sims all at the same time- just tried to get X plane 10 to run- found out I had to disable SLI/run off of only 1 GPU to get it to even run- otherwise it crashes on startup- not worth it to me as I would prefer to use my video card in the way it's meant to be used and not have to change modes and screen resolutions between sims and games all the time...

PS- anyone know when the ETA of the next stable optimized patch will be (eg. the official next update is that's the stable version of current Beta Patch 1.06.17582)? Are the developers still continuing to update this sim (and oficial updates will continue to come via steam) or is it all done by the community at this stage and will have to be manually updated via downloads from this site?

I will do some exploring of COD and look forward to getting onto Ts3 soon- thanks again guys

ATAG_MajorBorris · #9 06-27-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSelf

thanks everyone for your help- in it's current state the GTX 590 is running in SLI- it was disabling the aero 'desktop composition' that helped (this doesn't affect aero in windows in general does it- only in COD- correct?)- have yet to try without SLI- running off of one GPU- are you saying disabling SLI and running off of only 1 GPU will actually increase frame rates? I seem to be discovering about lack of support for SLI for some sims all at the same time- just tried to get X plane 10 to run- found out I had to disable SLI/run off of only 1 GPU to get it to even run- otherwise it crashes on startup- not worth it to me as I would prefer to use my video card in the way it's meant to be used and not have to change modes and screen resolutions between sims and games all the time...

PS- anyone know when the ETA of the next stable optimized patch will be (eg. the official next update is that's the stable version of current Beta Patch 1.06.17582)? Are the developers still continuing to update this sim (and oficial updates will continue to come via steam) or is it all done by the community at this stage and will have to be manually updated via downloads from this site?

I will do some exploring of COD and look forward to getting onto Ts3 soon- thanks again guys

The aero just turns off the fancy transparent windows and can be turned back on easily.

Frame rates improve without sli? not sure but the sli guys I know mostly have it shut off untill its properly implemmented.

ETA for patch? 2 weeks lol, maybe this friday

Updates-Beta updates are manual through this site but easy.

Official updates smartly update for you via steam.

TheSelf · #10 06-28-2012, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATAG_MajorBorris

The aero just turns off the fancy transparent windows and can be turned back on easily.

Frame rates improve without sli? not sure but the sli guys I know mostly have it shut off untill its properly implemmented.

ETA for patch? 2 weeks lol, maybe this friday

Updates-Beta updates are manual through this site but easy.

Official updates smartly update for you via steam.

Thanks Major Borris- I think I'll keep SLI on for now as it seems relatively OK- does the new official patch have any known improved support for SLI- where can I find more info on this new official patch on this site you say is soon to be released via steam (what's it called/version number- same number as beta patch 1.06.17582 - minus the 'beta' status)? thanks for generous support!