Dogfighting frustration on ATAG

drewpee · #1 05-09-2012, 01:23 PM

I have noticed with the new beta patch that shooting down an fighter ac is almost imposable. Flying on the ATAG server my kill ratio has always been around 6:1 and I land back at base most flights. Post patch it's down to almost 1:1 mostly flying 109's but also Spitts and Hurrys.
Last night I entered into about 12 dogfights most with the advantage. I believe I dominated most fights emptying my cannons and most mg in continuing passes. I didn't see a single ac go down (some were taken down in further action while heading home). I had three collisions with spits that destroyed my ac but the spit kept flying and one low stall. The score was 2.6 kills to 3 deaths.
Has any one els found it harder or am I just having a bad run?

CaptainDoggles · #2 05-09-2012, 01:46 PM

I find single-engine aircraft to be more durable (a little bit) but haven't found them to be overly difficult to down.

Last night, flying escort for a big bomber formation of 88's and 111's I got two spitfires - bounced one and got another one after a lengthy fight.

Sounds like it might be just a bad run? I did notice that my tracers aren't working any more, on my nose guns. Are you sure you're hitting?

Martin77 · #3 05-09-2012, 01:52 PM

You´re right i think. I Noticed it too . The plane react much slower on joystick inputs and due to the the sensitivier side rudder so its harder for me to make small corrections to hit where i want. i fly 109 too

drewpee · #4 05-09-2012, 02:28 PM

I do tend to waste a lot of mg on snap shots and save cannon for close up and personal. I just started using Fraps to review engagements and I was getting some good hits. My gunnery skills are much better after playing COD. In fact the other night (pre patch) flying a Hurricane I downed 4 109's in about 4 mins, it was a thing of beauty. I jumped two ea chasing a Spit. It took a couple of burst to bring down the wingman. The other three were downed in a series of high deflection snap shots after they swooped around me like a pack of dogs. Every short burst was rewarded with an explosion and the ea disintegrating. Like I said a thing of beauty. I even got a screen shot of the chat window of the last three. Just wish I'd recorded it as it was my best ever flight.

CaptainDoggles · #5 05-09-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by drewpee

I do tend to waste a lot of mg on snap shots and save cannon for close up and personal. I just started using Fraps to review engagements and I was getting some good hits. My gunnery skills are much better after playing COD. In fact the other night (pre patch) flying a Hurricane I downed 4 109's in about 4 mins, it was a thing of beauty. I jumped two ea chasing a Spit. It took a couple of burst to bring down the wingman. The other three were downed in a series of high deflection snap shots after they swooped around me like a pack of dogs. Every short burst was rewarded with an explosion and the ea disintegrating. Like I said a thing of beauty. I even got a screen shot of the chat window of the last three. Just wish I'd recorded it as it was my best ever flight.

Sounds like you're a better shot than me.

drewpee · #6 05-09-2012, 02:35 PM

I think lady luck was on my side that night. But as I said I'm hoping my bad aim is more the patch than me.

Ze-Jamz · #7 05-09-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by drewpee

I do tend to waste a lot of mg on snap shots and save cannon for close up and personal. I just started using Fraps to review engagements and I was getting some good hits. My gunnery skills are much better after playing COD. In fact the other night (pre patch) flying a Hurricane I downed 4 109's in about 4 mins, it was a thing of beauty. I jumped two ea chasing a Spit. It took a couple of burst to bring down the wingman. The other three were downed in a series of high deflection snap shots after they swooped around me like a pack of dogs. Every short burst was rewarded with an explosion and the ea disintegrating. Like I said a thing of beauty. I even got a screen shot of the chat window of the last three. Just wish I'd recorded it as it was my best ever flight.

Lol, you got the upper hand on 3 109's who were all buzzing around yer?

those pilots must of suckeddddd big time me thinks

I haven't found anything different in regards to bringing aircraft down, in fact most of the time im getting kills on Aircraft I don't even know about

CaptainDoggles · #8 05-09-2012, 03:06 PM

Blenheims, on the other hand, are still trivially easy to down. Don't even need cannons.

They need toughening up.

drewpee · #9 05-09-2012, 03:18 PM

The first ac I came across after installing the patch was a Blenheim. I opened up with my mg at 200 mts and took his starboard wing off after some nice puffs and an explosion

All down hill after that.

ATAG_MajorBorris · #10 05-09-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I find single-engine aircraft to be more durable (a little bit) but haven't found them to be overly difficult to down.

Last night, flying escort for a big bomber formation of 88's and 111's I got two spitfires - bounced one and got another one after a lengthy fight.

Sounds like it might be just a bad run? I did notice that my tracers aren't working any more, on my nose guns. Are you sure you're hitting?

Sounds fun