plane keeps rolling left?

[junneh]

Hey guys,

This my just be my noobiness ( im new to Il2)

But all of the planes I fly keep rolling right!, and aileron trim does not seem to do much... ( as opposed to pitch trim..)

they also seem very unstable, i cant even get my sights on a bomber flying level....

My joystick (saitek cyborg evo) is properly calibrated.

why does this happen ?

[ATAG_Dutch]

Hi. Try dialling in some left rudder trim to correct the tendency to roll right. Aileron trim adjustable in flight wasn't present in many of the aircraft of this era.

I don't think the 109 has rudder trim either, but may have aileron trim, I don't usually fly them.

You can reduce the sensitivity of the axes controls in the controls menu which may reduce the tendency to twitch around so much.

Gunnery is more difficult in Cliffs than any other sim I've owned, but probably more realistic for this.

[Basha]

I have the same stick and the same issue every now and then, look at your rudder from the external view and i reckon you will see thats its either full left or right, turn your stick full left and right a couple of times and it will centre itself.

Hope that helps you.

[Blackdog_kt]

What the other guys said is good advice.

In terms of gunnery now, prop wash is simulated. When flying directly behind another aircraft (especially a bigger one) you are flying through disturbed air in their wake, this has the effect of bouncing you around somewhat and makes gunnery harder.

Depending on relative size between aircraft this can be a big issue even today. For example, it's not unheard of in civil aviation for tower controllers to instruct small aircraft (like the local aeroclub's Cessna) hold for a while (5 minutes or more) before giving them take-off clearance, especially if the previous aircraft to take off was a big jet airliner.

Taking off in a small plane directly after an airliner can even be a cause of accident, because the disturbance in the air can cause all sorts of unpredictable eddies and currents, updrafts/downdrafts and so on.

[junneh]

Thanks alot for the responses guys.

My stick is old and isnt the most precise anymore. so I dailed in some deadzones and it seems better,

I will try with the rudder trim, I was trying to trim my ailerons all the time.

glad to hear its not my hardware malfunctioning but that it is suppose to happen

once again, thanks everyone!

[junneh]

IT was a sensitivity issue, once I turned them down to about 0.20.. the planes became flyable

[skouras]

noop
the prop wash simulated very well
at the beginning i though that occurs an issue with my controls
but was not the case

[pedalracer]

I roll, too

Well, and I am a newbie too but willing to learn to fly. However, to you set sensitivity to axes in SST (I got a X52 Pro) or ingame?

PS:
Besides, does SST always override ingame settings?

thanks

[Steel Sheep]

Hi all,

I've only tried this with the Bf 109's but setting the proppitch so that the engine runs at about 2000 rpm pretty much cancels out the roll. With good elevator trim I was able to fly the Bf 109 hands off for extended periods.

When in a dogfight the torgue induced roll isn't a big deal, since you're pitching and rolling all over the place, but during cruise torque induced roll can be a big strain on your wrist. Reducing the te prop pitch en thereby the RPM but not your speed is big help.

I hope this is helpfull for you guys. I haven't tried it with the Spit or Hurricane yet. Though the RPM will probably be different, the principle should be the same I guess.

[Wintergoose]

I also had the saitek cyborg evo stisk. It dont work well with IL2, not cod ore the old IL2.
There is a lot of complains aboth the saitek cyborg evo on the old forum and on the net. Have had a lot of discusions with Saitch but they did not admitt anything. There is also some info on their home site abouth saitek cyborg evo not working well with the IL2 series. I think there must be a software missfunction on this product.
Ther is also a lot of info on the net on how to fix the problem , but none of them are working and not worth to try.
I bought me a new stick V5 from saitech and that is exelent and makes no problems at all. I still believe in Saitch, everyboddy can do a miss no an then.