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Old 12-26-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default 8800 GT vs 7950 GX2

Well I have been testing those two cards and really the 7950 GX2 kill the 8800 on il2 and FSX at 1600x1200.
the Gx2 must only have the "92.91" version driver with a touchup profile and the 8800 with the latest driver.. Gx2 must be on force split image.
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:48 AM
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Well I have been testing those two cards and really the 7950 GX2 kill the 8800 on il2 and FSX at 1600x1200.
the Gx2 must only have the "92.91" version driver with a touchup profile and the 8800 with the latest driver.. Gx2 must be on force split image.
What about the 8800 in SLI? You and I have been in the same threads about the 8800 SLI. I cannot say how the 7950GX2 performs. I have never had one but the 8800 SLI setup gives me outstanding frames (I have posted my framerates for the BlackDeath and Kamikaze in other threads running at 1920x1200 4xAA, 16xAF, perfect settings, water=3 etc.). I trust your findings about the 7950GX2 but I cannot see how this card beats the 8800GTX SLI. I have run tests running the 8800 in a NON SLI and in SLI, and running in SLI performs MUCH better. If my memory serves me correctly the BlackDeath and Kamikaze were both running about 80 FPS average. I will have to dig up the exact numbers.
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Old 12-27-2007, 07:10 AM
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The 8800GT or GTX SLI should run great and better .. this is for a single GTS or GT new and older models.
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Old 12-28-2007, 04:24 PM
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Agree with you choctaw111

the main difference (and importance) of what GOZR writes is:

One 7950GX2 (two 7900GTX combines into one card) fits in one PCie slot motherboards and cost today (second hand eBay) EUR 200,--
Which probably serves the needs of mainstream computer users who do not plan to buy a new PC.

Two 8800GTX fit only in SLI motherboards with 600Watt+ PSUs which is 2 x EUR 400,00 = EUR 800,00 investment (plus the cost of a new PSU).

For the performance the 7950GX2 delivers in IL2FB it is unbeatable!

Remains to be seen though whether the new ATI 3870 (priced about the same) delivers more.

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Old 12-28-2007, 04:52 PM
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yes

The data that cannot be stored locally in VRAM is transferred to system memory where you will incur large latency penalties across the board. Technically the only penalty incurred should be fps losses, but a typical symptom you'll probably encounter is stuttering caused by texture swapping from the system RAM to the VRAM, generally known as cache thrashing. This takes place because textures needing to be displayed on screen obtain absolute priority, so if a texture needing to go on screen is currently being held in system RAM it will need to be moved to the video card ram before it can be displayed. Like I said, technically this should not happen, but inefficient memory management in many game engines guarantees the stuttering issue a common one.

The only cards that can run higher resolutions with a tons of textures and run them smoothly for very demanding applications as simulators must have a good amount of Vram, Cards with 1 GB is a must or SLI..
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:50 AM
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ATENTION!:

We have a lot models 8800, now the new GF8800 GT 512 with the new G92 grafic acelerator is superior on some 8800GTX, and the price is half!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid..._17.html#sect0
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:33 AM
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Yes this is the model i have 8800 GT ( 92 ) 512mb and tested.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:43 AM
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Gozr, I have a 7950GX2 and I'd be interested in finding out how to get the best performance out of it. Could you post your conf.ini settings and tell me what your video card settings are? I'm running 93.71 drivers. Thanks
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Old 01-04-2008, 12:17 AM
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Default Air Combat Sims...are Missing

Too bad our neighbors at XBIT stopped including LOCKON and IL-2 in their card reviews. The synthetic benchies are useless, unless you like to sit around and play them all day, and they never seem to mirror any real game programs.

XBIT, brothers ...how baout bringing back IL-2 Black Death track and others in your videocard and CPU benchmarks? THanks for all the good work in the past...very good stuff and diligent hard work.

See you in the skies...if you don't see me first.

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Old 01-04-2008, 01:02 AM
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I think I'll wait to see the benchmarks on this baby...9800 GX2

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==
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