Is there any chance that the P-47 load-out can be corrected to 2x1000lb and 1x500lb?

[Mysticpuma]

Just wondering if it will be possible o have the P-47 load-out corrected after all these years so that it is historically correct with the 500lb on the centre supports and a 1000lb under each wing?

Hopefully a simple, but realistic 'tweak'?

Cheers, MP

[Romanator21]

Here's an interesting thread on some various loadout options. Considering how many options there are, it may be more feasable to alter the way in which loudouts are selected: chose by hardpoint/bomb-bay.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/tec...uts-14154.html

For instance, in a Ju-88, the player could chose the loadout for the front bomb-bay, and leave the rear bay empty, instal a fuel tank, or more bombs!

For planes like the TB-3 or Pe-8, the player can chose whether the bombs are placed internally, externally, or both.

And finally, for aircraft like the P-47, the player could select extra ammo, or remove a pair of guns, or alternate between a couple belting patterns while choosing a bomb load for each hardpoint: frag bombs, 250lbs, 500lbs, 1000lbs and various drop tank combinations.

This could also allow asymmetrical loudouts of some Japanese fighters which sometimes carried a bomb on one wing, and a drop tank on the other.

The drop-down fields could be labelled "Guns" with a list, "Hardpoint 1" with a list for the forward bomb-bay or right-most hardpoint, "Hardpoint 2" with a list for the rear-bomb bay or middle harpoint, and "Hardpoint 3" with a list for the external racks or the left-most hardpoint.

The main advantage is being able to pick the loadout the player needs without resorting to an extremely long list in which it may be annoying to find the combination that one wants (some aircraft have over 30 options I think)

[310thDiablo]

I would be happy if they could jsut put API and APIT ammo on my Jugs.

[Mysticpuma]

Well I think it's a valid point to ask for correct load-outs on the P-47. It has to be one of the game's most under-developed aircraft when you consider just how much of a work-horse it was in WW2.

For years it has been left in a truly tragic condition, the cockpits are one of the worst in the game andit is sad to see such a great aircraft cobbled together.

I hope that maybe the P-47 will get a revamp in a future update, at-least the cockpit getting a make-over, as, when you consider the modded verions, there really has to be hope!

However, considering load-out, surely it is possible to have the payload corrected and maybe the APIT or API tracer added...so it actually can be used to it's full ability?

Cheers, MP

[IceFire]

I think correcting the P-47s shouldn't be too much of a problem

As for the belting. That is, I think anyways, a more complex issue. As it stands right now there is one piece of code for all M2 .50cals (to the best of my knowledge anyways). So if you change the belting on one... you change it on all. Really the API/APIT late war ammo should probably only show up on a couple of aircraft. Say the P-38L Late, P-47D, maybe the D-27 and the P-51D-20. Not sure if that type of ammo saw usage in the Pacific either... I don't know.

So how do you get the loadout right? Optional ammo belting built in to the game? If so then it's a bigger task to get that right for every aircraft type and for every gun too. I think that'd be incredibly cool but a large task for sure.

[JtD]

API was neither rare nor really late war, but certainly no common early war ammo either.

A belting change for the .50 would definitely help to improve realism for US warbirds, even if it did not include API, the currently belting plainly sucks.

[Pursuivant]

IIRC, U.S. forces in the Pacific used slightly different belting when flying against lightly armored Japanese planes, more incendiaries, less AP.

As JtD said, API/APIT belting isn't unreasonable for U.S. planes from 1942 on, nor is it unreasonable for allied British, French or Italian lend-lease planes.

The simple and necessary thing to do is to change the number of M2 options in the game - M2 Early War, M2 PTO/CBI Late War and M2 ETO/MTO Late War.

For that matter, TD will need to add some additional options for other common weapons, especially if they plans to release any nightfighters or night bombers (no tracer ammo).

It would be really cool if players could select their own ammo belting, but that would require way to much work.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by JtD

API was neither rare nor really late war, but certainly no common early war ammo either.

A belting change for the .50 would definitely help to improve realism for US warbirds, even if it did not include API, the currently belting plainly sucks.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here but I remember a discussion back several years ago about .50cal belting and there was a new type of API/APIT ammo introduced in 1944 and in to 1945 that was supposed to be more effective against jet fighters and jet fuel and apparently it turned out the new rounds were more effective in general as well so it was widely adopted. Or at least that was what was written.

I'd definitely support a change in the belting. I have no idea what impact it would have overall but I know it's sort of wonky right now. It even has a .50cal HE round which at best was experimental... I suspect it's there to try and compensate for some sort of modeling deficiency? I don't really know.

[ElAurens]

Those that use HSFX already know how much better the correct belting for the US M2 .50 Browning works.

Just sayin.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Those that use HSFX already know how much better the correct belting for the US M2 .50 Browning works.

Just sayin.

Any idea if the values on the bullet types were changed or just the belting itself? Curious.