Talking cockpits Spit vs Bf109

Plt Off JRB Meaker · #1 07-26-2011, 06:09 PM

I came across these two vids on YouTube and thought they may evoke some interest,basically the guy who's discussing the two pits is evaluating one against the other,anyway have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFj8N...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9YVei2Yb_k

Ze-Jamz · #2 07-26-2011, 06:15 PM

Been posted before mate...the guys a tool

David Hayward · #3 07-26-2011, 06:17 PM

Asking an RAF pilot to compare the Spit and 109 does not seem like the best way to get an unbiased opinion.

Plt Off JRB Meaker · #4 07-26-2011, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Been posted before mate...the guys a tool

Oh,terribly sorry to repost old material old chap,and the guy's a tool too,shit,I did'nt realise that when I posted the thread.

And just for the record who are you?,relation to Albert Einstein?or are you just putting forward the intelligent input for the forum,never mind eh

Bryan21cag · #5 07-26-2011, 07:19 PM

hmm will i would have to disagree that he gave a biased review.

He did give the spitfire a better review then the ME but if you actually watch and listen to both reviews completely he didn't really give either one a good review. He just thought there was less bad going on inside of the spit pit then the ME pit

I think as a pilot of of Heavy Iron aircraft he is qualified to asses for himself which cockpit, in his opinion is better suited for the role for which it was designed.

LOL he didn't dislike the ME pit because it was made by Germans and he is British you silly people, he disliked that it had less room it in and it had in his opinion worse visibility. and for a fighter pilot these are important features presumably.

Actually he was not asked this question but i would be surprised if he didn't give a bit more credit to the German pilots for being able to be as successful as they were considering that in his opinion they were at a disadvantage cockpit configuration wise.

One might argue that they were better pilots for it

LOL and maybe if you put a person who fly's ME's all the time and never sat in a spit pit inside it they might say "holy cow there is a lot of room in here and it sure is easier to see behind me" I guess we will have to wait for that video

any way Great post thanks for the videos very interesting.

Cheers

VO101_Tom · #6 07-26-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker

Oh,terribly sorry to repost...

I did not see this yet, thx.

von Pilsner · #7 07-26-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker

I came across these two vids on YouTube and thought they may evoke some interest,basically the guy who's discussing the two pits is evaluating one against the other,anyway have a look.

Pretty interesting, I had not seen those before.

JG52Uther · #8 07-26-2011, 07:26 PM

An interesting video.Seen it before but still interesting.
I find the 109 instruments much easier to read,and I assume its the same IRL.Always found the British instruments very cluttered.
As for the lack of rear view visibility, the LW fighter pilots never thought anone would be behind them,so it wasn't important...

Bryan21cag · #9 07-26-2011, 07:27 PM

PS i used to watch wings as a kid growing up (man i miss that show)

anyway i remember a few episodes where British and American pilots flew both 109 variants and 190's and gave glowing reviews of there flight characteristics and ability to dog fight.

Oh but they must have been completely biased towards there own planes and in no way could have said good things about the German planes just as pilots assessing planes my bad .......

this lot is always up for a fight aren't they lol

thanks again great post

Bryan21cag · #10 07-26-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther

I find the 109 instruments much easier to read,and I assume its the same IRL.Always found the British instruments very cluttered.

The guy in the video agreed with you completely

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther

As for the lack of rear view visibility, the LW fighter pilots never thought anone would be behind them,so it wasn't important...

lol

and correct me if im wrong but didn't the 109 with an experienced pilot on stick have a catlike ability to shake an aggressor at the first sign of tracer fire?

i would think there confidence in their ability to shake your tail clear would maybe make up for a little bit of early warning. Just my guess