Ki-43-II Kai is actually a -III model?

[taly001]

With il2 4.12.1 I noticed that the Ki-43-II Kai appears to be using a -III model shape? ie. the ejector exhausts are grouped in -III style. However the performance when i test the -II Kai is identical with the -II? From what i learnt on the internet The -II Kai model increased speed almost 35kph over the -II!

I think the il2 Ki-43-II Kai model be "renamed" into the -III which it resembles more closely, and the FM changed to the -III power rating and water injection (100L tank behind pilot) it makes a very useful upgrade in later war battles.

[*{64s}Saburo]

here 3 scans of my book about ki 43 1,2,and 3.

[shelby]

Everything about ki-43 is here
https://www.scribd.com/document/1487...Type-1-Fighter

[Pursuivant]

The -II/ -III model confusion might be because older sources, especially Western sources, weren't always accurate in describing the various models of Japanese planes.

The plane in the game might actually be the Ki-43-II Kai

[*{64s}Saburo]

Is it possible to change this? Perhaps with the information I gave
Since the book from which I have drawn the scans is five years old?
I can redo them in more readable if you want! let me know....

[Pursuivant]

Wow. Taly001 is right. The exhaust manifold placement is that of the Ki-43-III, rather than the Ki-43-II Kai.

That's a problem since the Ki-43-III was produced in very limited numbers.
Either some 3D work needs to be done to make the exhaust manifold conform to the actual Ki-43-II Kai model, or the FM needs to be improved to that of the Ki-43-III Ko model (the main production model).

[taly001]

Thanks for looking at it, What worried me most was the il-2 speeds@altitudes for Ki-43-II and Ki-43-II kai were identical!?! From my research......

Model 1 (10/1941) 564L tanks and 11.43m wingspan, variations in MGs 1 or 2 x 7.7/12.7mm.

Model 2 (11/1942) 528L tanks introduced (basic anti-leak wrapping), 2x12.7mm.

Model 2B (8/1943) 10.83m wingspan introduced. rear facing exhausts.

Model 2kai (7/1944) ejector exhaust 1-3-2.

Model 3 (10/1944) ejector exhaust 2-3-2, engine gets MW50 (~100L tank behind cockpit) and higher altitude for 2nd stage on supercharger.

There were noticeable variations on the MG blast tubes and engine oil coolers also during production.

[shelby]

check this
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=32946
i hope some day will fix them

[Pursuivant]

So, DT has known about the problem for years and hasn't fixed it yet.

From what I can tell, the modders haven't fixed this problem either.

Clearly not a whole lot of love for the Hayabusa!

[shelby]

The modders did not have access in burnindo books or at least the players did not care about the plane.