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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-24-2011, 09:54 PM
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Why not Axis and Allies?
This has always kinda bothered me, since it makes me think more about Halo, Team Fortress 2 or somekind of arcade teambased game..

Also, if you take the colours of the allied flags and roundels into account, they're blue/red/white..

While the axis has red/white/black.. So it would make more sense for the axis to be the red team, and allies be the blue team..

Please, for the sake of immersion, get rid of this whole blue/red team deal and called them axis and allies.
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:59 PM
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Because...wait for it....some countries switched sides during the war. Not interfering with historical correctness, if you will.
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:08 PM
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Part of the reason is so that when using the map, controlled areas are easily viewed
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:15 PM
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Because...wait for it....some countries switched sides during the war. Not interfering with historical correctness, if you will.
Wouldn't that make them allies then? I don't see the problem..

Also, WW2 online and most other games does this much better..
Red is a colour strongly associated with the Nazi regime, so red team being the axis would make a lot more sense..



It would also be nice to see some actual roundels and flags in the GUI.
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Wouldn't that make them allies then? I don't see the problem..

Also, WW2 online and most other games does this much better..
Red is a colour strongly associated with the Nazi regime, so red team being the axis would make a lot more sense..

It would also be nice to see some actual roundels and flags in the GUI.
LOL- what color do you think is associated with the Soviet Union???
Remember guys, this is a sim from a Russian developer so it would make perfect sense to them to consider the allied forces being RED.

It does make more sense to refer to Axis and Allied, especially when you get to the Pacific theatre. Red was definitely the color associated with the Empire of Japan.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:39 PM
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Why not Axis and Allies?
This has always kinda bothered me, since it makes me think more about Halo, Team Fortress 2 or somekind of arcade teambased game..

Also, if you take the colours of the allied flags and roundels into account, they're blue/red/white..

While the axis has red/white/black.. So it would make more sense for the axis to be the red team, and allies be the blue team..

Please, for the sake of immersion, get rid of this whole blue/red team deal and called them axis and allies.
Good Grief.
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Old 04-25-2011, 12:07 AM
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Well the soviets would be the one exception..
But pretty much all the other large allied countries have red blue and white in their flags and roundels..

While none of the Axis has blue, but all of them have red.

One solution would be to always display the enemy faction as red and friendlies as blue or green.
And then use axies and allies for the teams.

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Old 04-25-2011, 02:43 AM
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Calling the Soviets allies. . . hmm still doesn't sit right with me. I prefer, "The Enemy of my Enemy".

Any way, I think before we tackle this little colour issue, we should probably straighten out the whole, "Get the freaking game to run properly" issue.

Priorities you know!
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Why not Axis and Allies?
This has always kinda bothered me, since it makes me think more about Halo, Team Fortress 2 or somekind of arcade teambased game..

Also, if you take the colours of the allied flags and roundels into account, they're blue/red/white..

While the axis has red/white/black.. So it would make more sense for the axis to be the red team, and allies be the blue team..

Please, for the sake of immersion, get rid of this whole blue/red team deal and called them axis and allies.
because, in 2001 this sim call it Forgotten Battles: Russia (RED) Vs. Germany (Blue). catch it? it means red are the bad guys and blue the good
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Old 04-25-2011, 02:55 AM
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Who were the "Allies" exactly in July - Nov 1940? Let's start a list.

1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
5. ?
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