For those without CloD - Pics of He111 crew positions

[BobTuck]

Someone without CloD asked to see more screenies of bomber crew positions.

A collection of pics from inside a Heinkel:



The Heinkel 111




View forward from pilots position




Pilots position, looking out at left engine




Pilots position, looking up at opened hatch and mini-windscreen




Looking forward from bomb aimer/observer position




Bomb aimers console, with clickable dials




View through bomb aimers sight




Bomb aimer/observers front upper gun position




Bomb aimer/observers nose gun position




Dorsal (upper) gun position, docked




Dorsal (upper) gun position, undocked




Dorsal (upper) gun position, mounting moved to side




Dorsal (upper) gun position, zoomed in




Ventral (bottom) gun position




Side gun position (port side)




Side gun position (starboard side), showing magazine racks


For Ju88 screenies, go here:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=20433

BobTuck.

[Saintblu]

Did you use the auto stabilisor? Mine doesnt engage no matter what I map it to...

[Avionsdeguerre]

Amazing !

[BobTuck]

Originally Posted by Saintblu

Did you use the auto stabilisor? Mine doesnt engage no matter what I map it to...

I use 'A' for autopilot before I go to the crew positions - it always engages for me.

BobTuck.

[Viking]

Yes A-mazing! Is there a way to raise the pilots seat and look out of the hatch while flying/landing?

[BobTuck]

Originally Posted by Viking

Yes A-mazing! Is there a way to raise the pilots seat and look out of the hatch while flying/landing?

Hahah, with you on that one!

There is a key-map ability (to raise the pilots seat), but so far my attempts to do this in the Heinkel have met with failure.

BobTuck.

[CH_RoadDogg]

Bob I played around with the bomber and was able to move between positions and shoot the guns but could not figure out the bombsight and open bomb doors what did you set to use them?

[BobTuck]

Originally Posted by CH_RoadDogg

Bob I played around with the bomber and was able to move between positions and shoot the guns but could not figure out the bombsight and open bomb doors what did you set to use them?

It's Ctrl-B to open the bomb-bay doors, and Shift-F1 to view the bomb sight (assuming you are already in the bomb-aimers position)

I haven't yet worked out how to operate the sight though - it's always at a weird angle.

BobTuck.

p.s. The Heinkel has a bomb sight and mechanism, but it seems the Ju88 doesn't have that, and you are just meant to use it purely as a dive bomber.

[Blackdog_kt]

Just switch to the co-pilot/gunner/observer position in the Ju88 and press the "loosen straps" key, you'll get the bombsight

[BOBC]

Aside though from the faults below, great feeling to being there. generally well done.

MG15 saddle drums are nicely done, blued metal feel to them. Its a pity they havent got the gunsight right though, for a gunners position and their claims of accuracy they need a simple cross hair, what they have given us is not what the gunner aimed through. Any picture of an MG15 would show the real sight. Some inventiveness creeping in here....as is:-

Also the flying clothing is all wrong. Isn't such basic stuff important. Helmets were a sandy colour or dark brown leather, not light grey. earphones on either were a very dark brown almost black, Goggles rubber a dark grey or darkish green brown. Luft tunics were a medium greyish blue, bit like RAF, not a light blue, thats italian ! The shoulder boards were usually just with gold pips or none on an all aluminium woven base edged in yellow or if NCO blue material edged in 1cm aluminium braid and yellow piping, the Ju88 pilot has a lesser seen motif. Parachute straps, they seem to have a wide olive one under a narrower buff one, they should be just buff. Why all these mistakes in such easily seen material . No doubt they will fix it but I dont understand the lack of research by them , the data is readily available on the internet.
e.g. look here http://www.luftwaffeairfieldre-enact...lyingeqpt.html for helmets and scroll down for parachutes.
and here http://www.rathbonemuseum.com/GERMANY/GERMain.html
as well as google Luftwaffe tunic and there are sites selling them, proving they are not light blue.

The spent cartridge pods were a very dark brown, later in the war they had grey ones. Also concertinal cloth bags of a light olive green colour were used, with a black clasp (like a handbag) along the base. see the first link.

Gunsight is the one in this thread, I say this as I know that is the MG15 sight ! http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru....php?p=4045354

As said though, that aside, nice cockpits

BOBC