A plea to the players...

[Jsn]

Please ease up on the team stacking. It is tough enough for new players to get into this game without the veterans ganging up on them. We "noobs" know we are inferior and inexperienced but just give us a chance without the wingman lighting us up the second we line up on another player. I applaud the teamwork, it really is impressive, but it does very little to encourage newer players. I understand that certain people like to play together and thats great, but after 8 or 9 games of obliterating the other team is it really that fun? It sure isn't on the other side.

The lack of support for this game has pushed many players away, but there will still be new players with the new patch (Thank you!) but I doubt that them getting gang-raped by vets will keep them around long. I think it is clear that the lack of online players is a problem with this game and the team stacking isn't helping.

For the record, I still consider myself a "noob" even though I have owned this game for a long time. Once I joined online play I quickly quit because of team stacking, it was very frustrating. I came back for the recent patch only to find the same situation but worse. Sorry for the rant but I wanted to put it out there.

[edal86]

I agree with you. Personally, when I play a match and there are players that I do not recognize I use less capable planes, to keep things a little even. I have seen players that I know are very good, destroy all others with planes like the Spitfire IX and La7 and La5. It is even worse when the respawn time is set to 5 seconds because as soon as they die they are already at your six, and to the new players it does get very frustrating, its even frustrating for me.

Join my tournament my friend, add me and I will help you practice. Better yet, if you see me online and you are having trouble with any veteran bully just send me an invitation and I will keep him busy for you.

BTW, was your post regarding SIM difficulty? I only play sim, so if you need help on sim or need a wingman add me

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by Jsn

Please ease up on the team stacking. It is tough enough for new players to get into this game without the veterans ganging up on them. We "noobs" know we are inferior and inexperienced but just give us a chance without the wingman lighting us up the second we line up on another player. I applaud the teamwork, it really is impressive, but it does very little to encourage newer players. I understand that certain people like to play together and thats great, but after 8 or 9 games of obliterating the other team is it really that fun? It sure isn't on the other side.

The lack of support for this game has pushed many players away, but there will still be new players with the new patch (Thank you!) but I doubt that them getting gang-raped by vets will keep them around long. I think it is clear that the lack of online players is a problem with this game and the team stacking isn't helping.

For the record, I still consider myself a "noob" even though I have owned this game for a long time. Once I joined online play I quickly quit because of team stacking, it was very frustrating. I came back for the recent patch only to find the same situation but worse. Sorry for the rant but I wanted to put it out there.

you shouuld see me on arcade (which btw i find harder than realistic) im lining up onb some1 and everyone who is in my house hears ffs when im shot down by some1 else. i play arcade to try and unlock a few planes because apart from the mass of players its not that enjoyable for me

[P-51]

If you play on the PS3 do add us. Ill be happy to shoot some bullys

[SEE]

Enjoy and fly regularly.........some guys will always prefer to fly together but I find that most BOP fans will select balanced teams if you and the others mention it in the game lobby. Alternatively, host a few sessions for those of you who want a bit more 'practice' on your own. Sometimes I get newbies come on line and want to try their hand at SIM. I prefer to help them out and enjoy the experience rather than just get a hatfull of kills which, quite frankly, would bore me to death! Pretty sure most of the experienced guys feel the same.

[trueshotcaller]

Originally Posted by edal86

I agree with you. Personally, when I play a match and there are players that I do not recognize I use less capable planes, to keep things a little even. I have seen players that I know are very good, destroy all others with planes like the Spitfire IX and La7 and La5. It is even worse when the respawn time is set to 5 seconds because as soon as they die they are already at your six, and to the new players it does get very frustrating, its even frustrating for me.

Join my tournament my friend, add me and I will help you practice. Better yet, if you see me online and you are having trouble with any veteran bully just send me an invitation and I will keep him busy for you.

BTW, was your post regarding SIM difficulty? I only play sim, so if you need help on sim or need a wingman add me

Hi edal, I run sim all the time and I'd like a bit of training myself if you don't mind. Just learning from my own experience, I think I'm now becoming an intermediate pilot, but I know I have much to learn. P-51, I'm sure you have a lot to share also... actually, I'm logging in now to add all the people who signed up for the upcoming campaign...

In particular, I find this MIRGIRVIN guy relentless... he's clearly a superior pilot, but he never *handicaps* himself so to speak against others to give them a chance - he's always in a Spit or LA series plane, and I'm not sure what he's doing, but he ALWAYS sees you first, he's always on your six, and he's always sending you to the deck with only a few shots.

To me, as a clear ACE, he really should be doing more to help make others better around him.

[House MD 221B]

I'll be back when they add cockpits, and then I'll fly along side you, stick close to my B-17 now they've fixed its damage, and I'll keep you safe.

[kozzm0]

in ps3 sim mode team battles, we almost always balance out the teams because a crap battle sucks. We put the known quantities on opposite sides, as well as the newer ones. Sometimes, though, a new face turns out to be an ace. Watch out for beanno on ps3, not kidding.

The last few arcade and realistic battles I played were crowded, I think that's where the team stacking is. Switch to sim and you'll find things are better.

One problem is with 1 on 1 fights in dogfight mode. If a high-ranked player plays 1 on 1 against a low-ranked player, they have to be ruthless or they will lose rank. I used to go easy and just get 2 or 3 kills in a round, and then find out I lost a level for being mr nice guy.

If they would introduce unranked ps3 matches, or better yet, PvP training and co-op training, it would be a lot easier to help out the new pilots. Right now only team battle mode really works for that, but it doesn't give you much chance to work on advanced maneuvering.

[trueshotcaller]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

in ps3 sim mode team battles, we almost always balance out the teams because a crap battle sucks. We put the known quantities on opposite sides, as well as the newer ones. Sometimes, though, a new face turns out to be an ace. Watch out for beanno on ps3, not kidding.

The last few arcade and realistic battles I played were crowded, I think that's where the team stacking is. Switch to sim and you'll find things are better.

One problem is with 1 on 1 fights in dogfight mode. If a high-ranked player plays 1 on 1 against a low-ranked player, they have to be ruthless or they will lose rank. I used to go easy and just get 2 or 3 kills in a round, and then find out I lost a level for being mr nice guy.

If they would introduce unranked ps3 matches, or better yet, PvP training and co-op training, it would be a lot easier to help out the new pilots. Right now only team battle mode really works for that, but it doesn't give you much chance to work on advanced maneuvering.

With all the problems still present in the way kills and crashes are tallied, does the way rank is tallied and posted really matter? To me the ranking boards should be de-emphasized a bit.

[edal86]

Originally Posted by trueshotcaller

With all the problems still present in the way kills and crashes are tallied, does the way rank is tallied and posted really matter? To me the ranking boards should be de-emphasized a bit.

When the game came out, I cared about my rank and I only used the Spitfire IX. I was number 1 for everything on SIM mode for weeks. Now, I have not seen the leaderboards in a very long while and, truly, I dont care about them. So if any of you guys needs 1 on 1 practice I will use the M.C. 202, P-47, Fw 190, P-51 (even though these last 3 planes were fixed they are still no match for spitfire, yak, or La series). I wont care to be defeated, but I wont let you beat me so easily otherwise you would learn nothing.

add me trueshotcaller, same goes for any PS3 SIM Newbie