In search of the grail...

mazex · #1 10-16-2009, 07:53 PM

Can someone explain why 1C never mention SoW:BoB? At least not on the non-cyrillic pages

I can't find a 1C page that even mentions SoW... This is an IL2 forum so it does not count. Has anyone got a link to a page where any publisher mentions SoW:BoB accept that 2006 press release from Ubisoft?

Yes -this is not a rethoric question as there may be some page I've missed...

/Mazex

SlipBall · #2 10-16-2009, 08:03 PM

You could look over at the sim hq, there is an interview or two, and many posts by Mr. Big

furbs · #3 10-16-2009, 08:49 PM

well...dolphin..if your close to the mark mate, it looks alot like what "somebody" was talking about for ages.

airmalik · #4 10-17-2009, 04:10 AM

Ok I'll bite. Here's what I think happened:

Oleg/IC had a contract with UBI to produce x sims over a number of years. BOB/SOW development started way before 2007 but the scope changed/increased and rather than abandon that series with UBI at the end of the contract which was approaching, Oleg decided to 'save' BOB for until after his contract with UBI expired. I think this is why we hear Oleg say that development on BOB didn't start until 2007 even though people saw and played demos before then. My feeling is that there is some dispute with UBI about this and SOW won't see the light of day until that's resolved.

Of course I don't have anything to back this up except my hunch. Hey, everyone here has a theory so why not me?

13th Hsqn Protos · #5 10-17-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by airmalik

but the scope changed/increased

The only correct part.

SlipBall · #6 10-17-2009, 08:13 AM

I think that when it's all said and done, 1C will be the publisher, and the sim will have a much different title.

TheGrunch · #7 10-17-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall

...the sim will have a much different title.

Hopefully, the current one seems to have lost something in the translation.

mazex · #8 10-17-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by airmalik

Ok I'll bite. Here's what I think happened:

Oleg/IC had a contract with UBI to produce x sims over a number of years. BOB/SOW development started way before 2007 but the scope changed/increased and rather than abandon that series with UBI at the end of the contract which was approaching, Oleg decided to 'save' BOB for until after his contract with UBI expired. I think this is why we hear Oleg say that development on BOB didn't start until 2007 even though people saw and played demos before then. My feeling is that there is some dispute with UBI about this and SOW won't see the light of day until that's resolved.

Of course I don't have anything to back this up except my hunch. Hey, everyone here has a theory so why not me?

That's my theory too, but as all has been quiet on the western front since 2006 I hoped that someone had some link to a cyrillic page that mentions SoW or whatever the next title will be called. As it is now SimHQ is the official channel (and to some extent this IL2 forum), that feels a bit odd. Now and then bablefished stories pop up from some of the active russian forums (sukhoi.ru etc), so I hoped that somewhere on the russian 1C pages there would be information. As it is now I wait at every event (Leipzig, E3 etc) for some update from 1C (or even Ubi - we are only guessing that they are completely cut off). As long as 1C don't even show SoW in their lists of games in production, how could we get an update?

I do agree with you airmalik, there are probably lawyers involved here - let's just hope they don't mess this up. Some day I suppose that 1C will do a big bang presentation of the new title from the creator of IL2, and it will probably not be called Storm of War... Silly name anyway. Now that FSX is gone and X-plane behaves like an arcade game (especially regarding low speed physics) the scene is open to take a bite at the whole market I guess - so that's maybe what has caused the lack of information. Enter the "Aerospace Simulator" series by Maddox Games or something, with the first installation containing a BoB module, an aerobatics competition module and a modern civilian module where you can fly Cessnas and Pipers from modern day England and France

Just dreaming - thats all we can do while in the cold

/Mazex

airmalik · #9 10-18-2009, 04:20 AM

mazex, it'll be a very interesting day when/if we find out what actually happened. With all these years of anticipation, expectations are going to be very high but I'm confident Oleg's team won't disappoint.

In the meantime, I've briefly played BoP and XPlane. BoP is gorgeous to look at but I've found that I can't really get into a flightsim without TrackIR anymore. XPlane is fun to play but I must stay the flight dynamics leave a bit to be desired. They make a big deal of blade element simulation but I was disappointed that it doesn't seem to make a huge difference in flight dynamics. Still, it's fun playing with the wind and turbulence settings and watching the force vectors.

tagTaken2 · #10 10-18-2009, 08:13 AM

Have you considered DCS: Black Shark, or RoF, both have full 6dof support.

I'd be going a bit spare if it wasn't for other sims, it looks like the wait for SoW is going to stretch out for another year.