Bf-109E-4 and E-4/B With Update???

[smink1701]

Wondering what are the big differences with these models vs the versions in the current game.

[Ze-Jamz]

They can fire the mineshells..

Dont think the E-4 had a diff power plant though some very small numbers did for high alt flying so cant see that included but would be nice..

Seems a bit of a waste having a new variant just because it can fire a diff ammo..

Maybe Im wrong though

[Gollum]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

They can fire the mineshells..

Dont think the E-4 had a diff power plant though some very small numbers did for high alt flying so cant see that included but would be nice..

Seems a bit of a waste having a new variant just because it can fire a diff ammo..

Maybe Im wrong though

Wasn't the e-4 the dominant fighter during bob? heard e-3 was rare.. Mineshells sound nice... Wings be gone...

[JG53Frankyboy]

and perhaps the CoD E-4 will have a automatic propeller.
At least it has a thumbrockerswitch on the throttle instead the lever on the instrument panel. we will see.

[Redroach]

well, If the spits retain their buggy performance after their patch, RAF's future looks bleak
The RAF needs some love, too - give us some more planes, too!

[Ze-Jamz]

Originally Posted by Redroach

well, If the spits retain their buggy performance after their patch, RAF's future looks bleak
The RAF needs some love, too - give us some more planes, too!

Yea must be hard with the Hurri Rotol and Spit2 huh?

[Winger]

Originally Posted by Redroach

well, If the spits retain their buggy performance after their patch, RAF's future looks bleak
The RAF needs some love, too - give us some more planes, too!

The spitfire and hurricane are good in their performance. They can do thing pretty well if FLOWN CORRECTLY like people like wavilon show regularily on the the servers.
I mean they do turn better than the 109 (by a really big amount) heck the spitfire can turn on a dime. The hurricane is EXTREMELY close in speed to the 109. If you raise the performance for either of the two you ruin it completely for the german side. I mean look at the servers that have the Spit IIa... NOONE plays there for a reason. No point in playing german at all on those servers.
I do think we have a pretty good balance between the allied planes and the german ones (well with exception of the dogfighting blenheims and pi** poor performing G50)
So stop whining and learn how to fly them correctly.

Winger

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

and perhaps the CoD E-4 will have a automatic propeller.
At least it has a thumbrockerswitch on the throttle instead the lever on the instrument panel. we will see.

And hopefully we get the speed of the 109 corrected with is imho still about 10% off (and for all the other planes with the same desease)

[Sven]

Any of you figured out how the automatic prop pitch works in the new Beta patch? I set the key to toggle it but it doesn't seem to do anything

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Gollum

Wasn't the e-4 the dominant fighter during bob? heard e-3 was rare.. Mineshells sound nice... Wings be gone...

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/BoB.htm

Quote:
The Bf 109E-4, which entered service in May 1940 and was therefore the latest model used at the time of the BoB, introduced the MG-FFM cannon. This was a version of the MG-FF modified to fire the new, thin-walled high-capacity mine shells (Minengeschoss or M-Geschoss). Although containing far more explosive than the MG-FF's shells, the M-Geschoss was much lighter at 92 g. It was fired at a higher velocity of around 700 m/s (2,300 fps) but even so did not develop enough recoil to operate the MG-FF's mechanism, so the gun had to be altered with a lighter reciprocating weight and weaker recoil spring. Ammunition for the MG-FF and MG-FFM was therefore not interchangeable. It appears that MG-FFs were gradually converted to the FFM standard and the two terms used interchangeably thereafter.

Comparisons of the effectiveness of the British and German armament are not unlike the comparisons of the aircraft – each had its strengths and weaknesses. The British armament had a very high rate of fire (160 v. 50 rounds per second for the Bf 109), increasing the chance of scoring a hit. In weight of fire the German guns had a slight advantage (2.0 v. 1.8 kg per second), whereas in total muzzle energy there was nothing to choose between them. The key difference was of course the high explosive in the 20mm shells, which was enough to give the Bf 109E-4 almost double the destructive power of the British fighters. The M-Geschoss were not good at penetrating armour but this was considered a reasonable price to pay for the increased HE blast effect. The Luftwaffe discovered that the most reliable way of bringing down aircraft was the general destructive effect of HE blast within the structure, rather than relying on being able to hit vital but small areas (e.g. the pilot!), which could be, and quickly were, protected by armour. For this reason, AP projectiles eventually disappeared from German cannon ammunition belts except for special purposes.