G940 bugs sorted out???

[F19_Klunk]

I am on the verge of getting a new HOTAS setup.. I have CH pedals, CH stick and X45 throttle.
Pedals and throttle are really fallaing apart soon and I need a new setup;

I have been looking into the G940 system and for the amount of dough u seem to get quite a complete setup (Thrustmaster is over my budget with no rudders.)

However I have followed the reversal bug discussion on the G940 for awhile.... is it sorted or is it still there?

[Qpassa]

Well the histeresis is still there ( except X/Y joystick) , next step is a software/firmware release so we have to wait

[F19_Klunk]

so throttle and pedals are still screwed up??
Stick I can live with as I still have my CH...

[Arrow]

Originally Posted by F19_Klunk

so throttle and pedals are still screwed up??
Stick I can live with as I still have my CH...

well, maybe I am some lucky user - but nothing is screwed up with my G940. I fly Il-2 4.10, FC2, Black SHark without any rudder/throttle problems.

[Qpassa]

I also dont have any issue, just they could work better. But now they work great!

[Blue 5]

The stick does not move as smoothly as a MSFF2 with an annoying tendency for reistance to rise and then suddenly fall, as though the mechanism had some tiny foreign objects stuck in it. This can make precise control difficult.

[Yammo]

Wait...?!

Are you saying that when you increase the throttle SLOWLY in IL2 1946...
...it does NOT jump 1-3? (but instead goes in smooth 1% increments)

Are you saying that when you SLOWLY reverse the throttle in IL2 1946...
...it does NOT jump 2-6%? (but instead goes back the single 1%)


When I started out, I thought my bad aim at high speeds were due to
my lacking skills... I did not realize that there was a quite major flaw
in the G940 compounding the problem. While the reversal bug has been
fixed for the X/Y axis on the stick(via a firmware update which is all but
easy to find), ALL other analogues still have this glitch. While not a big
thing for a newbie, it WILL annoy the HECK out of you as you improve.

What is worse, is that Logitech has been working on a fix for this since
they released the stick. Furthermore they give close to no feedback on
what the plans/schedules are. So, don't count on the rest of the axis
being fixed.

The really appalling flaw of the G940 is that one of the cables going from
the buttons on throttle to its base, are 1cm too short and made from
a brittle material. Meaning after about 4-6 months of use, you will start
seeing R1&R2 jitter as you move the throtte(and thus the cables) back
and forth. While this is not hard to fix, it is a defect by design.


In short...
- The G940 is overprised!
- Has a design flaw which WILL break the throttle automatically.
- Has a bug which remains un-fixed after 2 years.
- The profiler(which binds the keys etc) is adequate at best, but actually rather "sub par"
- There is close to NO information from Logitech and they are SLOW to produce Software.
+ The Logitech phone support is very professional and serviceminded.
+ The only HOTAS FFB stick on the market.
+ Once you figure out how to fix the wires in the throttle, it is a sturdy piece of EQ.
+ Once you resign to throttle frenetically up and down to get to specific percentages
or RPMs, the reversal bug on the throttle is nothing more than a constant inconvenience.

[Mysticpuma]

Great video examples, thanks for the information. I can imagine that would be a nightmare to work with!

Cheers, MP

[Artist]

Originally Posted by Yammo

- The G940 is overprised!
[...]
+ Once you resign to throttle frenetically up and down to get to specific percentages or RPMs, the reversal bug on the throttle is nothing more than a constant inconvenience.

+ Or: Once you bought and conncted two of Leo Bodnar's controllers to throttle, rudder, breakes, wheels, and trims (=10 axes), you can be quite happy with it - I am...

Artist

[Artist]

Well, there two issues with the G940:

Issue 1 are the malcontacts in the throttle. Symptom: When you move the right(!) throttle, the axes R1 and R2 kind of jitter. Cause: The throttle movement stretches the cable inside and faulty signals a created in the lines of R1 and R2. Fix: Exchange the G940 repeatetly at Logitech, or fix it yourself (as I did - thereby loosing all warranty).

Issue 2 is the so called Reversal Bug. It still exists on all axes (all 3 trims, rudder, throttle, R1, R2) except the stick x and y. You can live with that (I can't) or fix it creativly (as he did - and me, too)

After these modifications I am - seriously, no joke - really happy with the G940. I love its grip, the force feedback, its solidity.

Artist