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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-04-2011, 03:43 PM
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Default Are Tracer threads the new ".50-Calibre" thread?What if we get a .50-calibre in CloD?

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Old 07-04-2011, 04:09 PM
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we already have them no? The breda 12.7mm on the G.50 ?
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:13 PM
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Yeah the Bredas are porked though. In real life they could flip a Sherman tank right over!

Pilots would bounce them off the bottom of the ocean, and the bullets would come up into the soft, unarmoured belly of the Allied Tankers.
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Pilots would bounce them off the bottom of the ocean, and the bullets would come up into the soft, unarmoured belly of the Allied Tankers.
I have never heard of that, and my understanding of balistics makes it seem improbbable, would love to have a link to some info on that.
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Was sarcasm. On the old ubi forums we had pages and pages of posts arguing about how the M2 50 cals flipped Panzers over in real life (impossible) and how pilots would bounce the rounds off the roads and up into the belly of tanks while strafing, because the armor was thinner.
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Yeah the Bredas are porked though. In real life they could flip a Sherman tank right over!
Sorry, I think you mean tiger tank!
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:21 PM
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Was sarcasm. On the old ubi forums we had pages and pages of posts arguing about how the M2 50 cals flipped Panzers over in real life (impossible) and how pilots would bounce the rounds off the roads and up into the belly of tanks while strafing, because the armor was thinner.
'phew' ok, I was sucked in.
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I have never heard of that, and my understanding of balistics makes it seem improbbable, would love to have a link to some info on that.
Me too, water is really good at stopping bullets quickly. To bounce them off the seabed seems impossible to me (unless we're talking less than 3 feet of water)

Didn't mythbusters fire a .50 cal into a swimming pool to test this sort of thing out?

Answered my own question..

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I hate all of the people that bought this game expecting a flight sim. We all knew it was a ballistics and tracer round sim. You fly boys are just kidding yourselves.
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Was sarcasm. On the old ubi forums we had pages and pages of posts arguing about how the M2 50 cals flipped Panzers over in real life (impossible) and how pilots would bounce the rounds off the roads and up into the belly of tanks while strafing, because the armor was thinner.
P-47 Thunderbolt pilots like Gabreski and Zemke reported that the bounce of bullets on hard roads (normally stone paved ones) could be "directed" under tanks, but again it was a mix of skills/luck and not always effective.

As for bullet bounce, they can ricochet over the water (not on the seabed), but only at a certain distance (when they lose most of their kinetic load) and angle, again, guncamera footage shows it in a pretty clear way. There are clips when you see whole bursts getting deflected by steel railroads.
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