To the Developers

[PhantomIIF4]

Ladies & Gentlemen,

First let me start off by saying that I've been an avid fan of the Il-2 series since the Forgotten Battles installment several years ago. I have 1946 installed on my computer and I still play it from time to time. When I heard this series was coming to the consoles I was excited, and I've enjoyed the Xbox 360 version thus far. I've noticed a few odd errors in terms of the factual representation of the airplanes however, and this rather shocked me as the Il-2 series is what I consider one of the more factually accurate representations of WWII aircraft I've ever come across.

I'm not sure if any of these small issues can be fixed, but I thought I would at least try to bring it to your attention and see if anything can be done.

The first thing I noticed is that the weapons descriptions for the Hawker Hurricane Mk II and Bristol Blenheim are incorrect. While both aircraft carried machine guns, they were of the 7.7-mm (.303 cal.) type as opposed to the larger 12.7-mm (.50 cal.) type. I realize it's a minor issue, and most people playing the game will probably not notice it. Just something I felt I should point out. Oh, and since the 12-gun variant of the Hurricane is represented, the designation should technically be Hurricane Mk IIB. Again, not a huge deal, but just something I noticed.

Additionally, as with the Il-2 itself (at least the earlier models), the rocket armed Hurricane variants were fitted with eight RP-3 rockets as opposed to six as shown in the game. It's not a huge deal, but just something I felt I should point out. I'm guessing entire 3D model changes are rather out of the question, but it was worth mention.

The third issue I noticed involves the P-51B. The aircraft depicted in the game doesn't have the appearance of a P-51B, but rather an earlier variant of the Mustang used by the British known as the Mustang Mk.IA. This early variant of the Mustang series has the Allison V-1710 engine (notice the three-blade propeller and cowling differences as compared to a P-51 variant with the Merlin engine). Thus, in the interest of historical accuracy, this aircraft should be renamed the Mustang Mk IA in all game references to it. Additionally, the armament listing in the hangar of four 12.7-mm Brownings (which is correct for a P-51B) should be listed as four 20-mm Hispanos, which was indeed the armament of the Mustang Mk IA.

Anyways, I hope some of this information can be put to use in potential patches or game updates. Thank you for anytime you can put into reading my comments.

[MorgothNL]

I dont really care about what the 'hangar' says... but I do want to know.. what IS the armament of the planes? the ones they have in the 3d model and in real life.....or the ones stated in the hangar?

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by PhantomIIF4

Ladies & Gentlemen,

First let me start off by saying that I've been an avid fan of the Il-2 series since the Forgotten Battles installment several years ago. I have 1946 installed on my computer and I still play it from time to time. When I heard this series was coming to the consoles I was excited, and I've enjoyed the Xbox 360 version thus far. I've noticed a few odd errors in terms of the factual representation of the airplanes however, and this rather shocked me as the Il-2 series is what I consider one of the more factually accurate representations of WWII aircraft I've ever come across.

I'm not sure if any of these small issues can be fixed, but I thought I would at least try to bring it to your attention and see if anything can be done.

The first thing I noticed is that the weapons descriptions for the Hawker Hurricane Mk II and Bristol Blenheim are incorrect. While both aircraft carried machine guns, they were of the 7.7-mm (.303 cal.) type as opposed to the larger 12.7-mm (.50 cal.) type. I realize it's a minor issue, and most people playing the game will probably not notice it. Just something I felt I should point out. Oh, and since the 12-gun variant of the Hurricane is represented, the designation should technically be Hurricane Mk IIB. Again, not a huge deal, but just something I noticed.

Additionally, as with the Il-2 itself (at least the earlier models), the rocket armed Hurricane variants were fitted with eight RP-3 rockets as opposed to six as shown in the game. It's not a huge deal, but just something I felt I should point out. I'm guessing entire 3D model changes are rather out of the question, but it was worth mention.

The third issue I noticed involves the P-51B. The aircraft depicted in the game doesn't have the appearance of a P-51B, but rather an earlier variant of the Mustang used by the British known as the Mustang Mk.IA. This early variant of the Mustang series has the Allison V-1710 engine (notice the three-blade propeller and cowling differences as compared to a P-51 variant with the Merlin engine). Thus, in the interest of historical accuracy, this aircraft should be renamed the Mustang Mk IA in all game references to it. Additionally, the armament listing in the hangar of four 12.7-mm Brownings (which is correct for a P-51B) should be listed as four 20-mm Hispanos, which was indeed the armament of the Mustang Mk IA.

Anyways, I hope some of this information can be put to use in potential patches or game updates. Thank you for anytime you can put into reading my comments.

Hey man, I think the same way as you. Yes, these things arn't big problems, but they are just a little anoying. Like when you're watching a period drama and you see something that shouldn't have existed yet lol. Things like this I like to be historicaly accurate. Another thing that slightly gets to me is how any Mustang is always called a P51 mustang. Even the member here called "P51" in his sig has a Mustang Mk IV, makes me go "grrrr, you should be called Mustang not P51" whenever he posts lol. It was the RAF that asked North American Aviation to build it not the USAAF afterall, so why should it always have the USAAF designation?

So anyway, about the Mustang. Which version do you think the plane called P51B mustang in BoP acually is? Maybe it IS actually an old mkIA (P-51 with no letter) with the alison engine, which would explain why it seems so slow. Also the IL2 BoP website has the plane named incorrectly as "P-51B / MkIA".
You are right in that visualy it is a MkIA and visualy it has 4 big 20mm cannons sticking out the wings. So what Morgoth says is important. Does the "P-51B" in the game perform like a real P-51B would have with small guns and a merlin engine or does it perform like it visualy should with a weak engine and powerfull cannons? (mkIA / P-51) I hope it is the later.

[PhantomIIF4]

Should I take it that the developers don't actually read the posts or do they read them without telling you? I'm new to the forum so don't really know how things work.

You guys think this information will reach them?

[Swagger7]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Hey man, I think the same way as you. Yes, these things arn't big problems, but they are just a little anoying. Like when you're watching a period drama and you see something that shouldn't have existed yet lol. Things like this I like to be historicaly accurate. Another thing that slightly gets to me is how any Mustang is always called a P51 mustang. Even the member here called "P51" in his sig has a Mustang Mk IV, makes me go "grrrr, you should be called Mustang not P51" whenever he posts lol. It was the RAF that asked North American Aviation to build it not the USAAF afterall, so why should it always have the USAAF designation?

So anyway, about the Mustang. Which version do you think the plane called P51B mustang in BoP acually is? Maybe it IS actually an old mkIA (P-51 with no letter) with the alison engine, which would explain why it seems so slow. Also the IL2 BoP website has the plane named incorrectly as "P-51B / MkIA".
You are right in that visualy it is a MkIA and visualy it has 4 big 20mm cannons sticking out the wings. So what Morgoth says is important. Does the "P-51B" in the game perform like a real P-51B would have with small guns and a merlin engine or does it perform like it visualy should with a weak engine and powerfull cannons? (mkIA / P-51) I hope it is the later.

IT's generally referred to as a P-51 because that's its official name. It's not our fault that you Brits decided to call it something different. We made the thing and used far more than you guys did, hence, we get to name it.

[John192]

Originally Posted by Swagger7

IT's generally referred to as a P-51 because that's its official name. It's not our fault that you Brits decided to call it something different. We made the thing and used far more than you guys did, hence, we get to name it.

Yet another dumb american spouting crap without knowing the facts

[dazz1971]

Originally Posted by Swagger7

IT's generally referred to as a P-51 because that's its official name. It's not our fault that you Brits decided to call it something different. We made the thing and used far more than you guys did, hence, we get to name it.

really so we had nothing to do with the design then ??
you yanks may have made it but it was flawed.....
and it took us brits to fix that flaw with OUR bubble canopy design

[juz1]

to anyone knitpicking about the historical accuracy...
it's a game...

now give the autism a rest and stop being a y-chromosome clich??..

its already been stated it was for game balance.

...now just fly the thing...


as for anglo-american squabbles...BOTH countries helped make a plane...The Pilots made it a great one...

respect...
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GZ SERIES

[loopdreams]

What on earth is a cleche?

[King Jareth]

Originally Posted by loopdreams

What on earth is a cleche?

Charged with another bearing of the same figure, and of the color of the field, so large that only a narrow border of the first bearing remains visible; - said of any heraldic bearing. apparently