Sunderland?

[Igo kyu]

The heaviest fighter in the war.

I don't expect it in BoB, but it ought to be in SoW somewhere.

[BG-09]

Fw-200 Condor is the second of the biggest fighters in "BoB" - lets do not forget him too...

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[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

The heaviest fighter in the war.

I don't expect it in BoB, but it ought to be in SoW somewhere.

I would expect it to be in the first release:
Very old (december last year) WIP-picture: http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/s25a.jpg

Taken from post #4 in "Oleg Maddox' News" in this forum.

Skarphol

[Zorin]

How about this one from September?

http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/Sunderland_Mk-I_08.jpg

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

I would expect it to be in the first release:
Very old (december last year) WIP-picture: http://files.games.1c.ru/il2pict/s25a.jpg

Taken from post #4 in "Oleg Maddox' News" in this forum.

Skarphol

I meant as flyable, that could easily just be a target, though I certainly didn't know about it.

I know it's early WIP, but that looks wrong, the colour scheme should be white sides to the hull, and where is the top turret? For later marks the top turret may have been omitted, but the early (BoB period) Sunderlands would have had them.

In the early part of the war, the Sunderlands mission included an anti-air element, they were required to defend convoys in mid Atlantic. Later in the war, when CAMs and escort carriers became available, their mission would have been mainly anti-submarine, but in the early war bomber inteception (well out of range of anyone's single engined, or probably twin engined, fighters) would have been a concern.

[Al Schlageter]

I know it's early WIP, but that looks wrong, the colour scheme should be white sides to the hull, and where is the top turret? For later marks the top turret may have been omitted, but the early (BoB period) Sunderlands would have had them.

The Mk I Sunderland had blisters as on the model. The Mk II and Mk III had a dorsal turret. The Mk V had no turret.

Early war Sunderlands had no white sides or white from the step to the lower part of the turret white. There was even one Sunderland with black undersides.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

The Mk I Sunderland had blisters as on the model. The Mk II and Mk III had a dorsal turret. The Mk V had no turret.

Early war Sunderlands had no white sides or white from the step to the lower part of the turret white. There was even one Sunderland with black undersides.

Okay.

I have few references on the Sunderland, all the images I have, or remember having seen, had white sides. What references would anyone recommend on the Sunderland?

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

Okay.

I have few references on the Sunderland, all the images I have, or remember having seen, had white sides. What references would anyone recommend on the Sunderland?

White sides would usually mean Coastal Command.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Zorin

White sides would usually mean Coastal Command.

I believe that's correct. How much do you know about Coastal Command?

[Igo kyu]

The reason I asked how much was known about Coastal Command is because as I understand it was the only RAF Command (based in the UK (I don't know much about the foreign based Commands)) that had anything to do with flying over water (except as a route to other land based objectives obviously). If there had been a High Seas Command, the Navy would have claimed it. The Navy had the Fleet Air Arm, which came out of Navy funding. The Navy, in peacetime at least, would have loved, shortsightedly, to have had some of the RAF's funding to build ships with. Coastal Command flew the Sunderland on missions, Training Command possibly flew some for their own function, but all Sunderlands engaged in military activities would have been Coastal Command planes.

If this is old news, I'm sorry, but the answer I got to my question didn't make it clear that this is known, if it is.