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Old 09-12-2008, 04:32 PM
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Default Perfomances through time!

We gladly saw Oleg's new post considering the development of SoW and we got except some great looking pics and a big news hint! The look and the perfomance of our aircraft will faint in the past of time!Marvelous idea especially the looking part! As for the perfomance this will be available and for the online campaigns? Do we have an idea how much will be the amount of the perfomance drop and what would be the reasons for more bad perfomance? Will be noticable that there were engineers and new spare parts working to maintain the shape of an aircraft? Also i would like to add that ace pilots had special treatment for their planes!

Keep the good work gentlemen!

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Old 09-12-2008, 05:22 PM
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For player plane only?

AI aircraft need at least simplified "basic" wear. Player plane can have more "detailed" wear modelling.

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Will be noticable that there were engineers and new spare parts working to maintain the shape of an aircraft?
No. All engineers needed to run high Polygon trains.
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:16 PM
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No. All engineers needed to run high Polygon trains.
ROFL!
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:30 AM
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I hope there will be a randomize function on line.

Can you imagine the scope for abuse where the hosts squadrons get factory fresh planes and the rest get clapped out planes!

I also hope that the external appearance doesn't necesairly mean the aircraft performance is down. Otherwise having a ratty aircaft will mark you out for special attention. An aircraft can be well maintained mechanically but the paints a bit shoddy. (though the paint work may account for a few mph at top speed!)

I can imagine the chat messages

"I owned U bigtime!"
"My planes a pig, how com all our planes are clapped out"
"Shoddy workman always blames the tools. looser! U Sux"
"It's the plane, Hey aren't u the Host"
"Crybaby"
"Cheeter! I'm going to an IL2 server!"
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:45 AM
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Can you imagine the scope for abuse where the hosts squadrons get factory fresh planes and the rest get clapped out planes!
Yes! A "historical" Online War campaign covering anywhere in the Pacific roundabout 1943 and after.

But the AI planes have to have some "wear" modelling, at least at a simple level, or the whole idea is a disaster.
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Old 09-13-2008, 12:54 AM
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Tiger::
Yes! A "historical" Online War campaign covering anywhere in the Pacific roundabout 1943 and after.

But the AI planes have to have some "wear" modelling, at least at a simple level, or the whole idea is a disaster.
Yes...
Furthermore they will need to really have the same FM/DM as player or offline experience will be severely crippled.
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Old 09-13-2008, 02:15 AM
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FM means squat if the AI isn't programmed to use it, either used right or wrong according to AI pilot skill modelling.

I made an FM for The StrikeFighters. Hardcore, realistic and all that nonsense, and the AI didn't know what to do with it. So I had to dumb it down, big time. I still have the "hardcore" version, so maybe I can use it for player plane, but with a player plane wingman or flight, forget it.
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Old 09-13-2008, 02:21 AM
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oh yeah, and to continue my Yeager kick I've been on...

"Its teh player, not teh flight model' ~Chuck_Yeager if he was born decades later and grew up with The Sims.
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Old 09-13-2008, 03:14 AM
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I wonder how performace will be altered for older planes.

Less Power?
rough running?
More chance of a breakdown?
Harder to start?
More likely to overheat?
Run out of oil quicker?
Smokey exhaust?


As an aside, I've just upgrade my PC a month or two ago and I'm already going through what I'll need to upgrade for Bob in year or so's time! I think my wife will be unimpressed!
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:01 PM
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I wonder how performace will be altered for older planes.

Less Power?
rough running?
More chance of a breakdown?
Harder to start?
More likely to overheat?
Run out of oil quicker?
Smokey exhaust?


As an aside, I've just upgrade my PC a month or two ago and I'm already going through what I'll need to upgrade for Bob in year or so's time! I think my wife will be unimpressed!
I would expect the usage time to be more modelled on airframe stress than engine wear. From an engine standpoint the maintenance schedules were pretty rigorously maintained even at the height of the conflict, certainly in the RAF - and undoubtedly by the LW as well, I just haven't researched their procedures. It's also worth remembering that the supply of fighters was never a big issue at this period. An unserviceable aircraft was taken out of the line and replaced - it was a shortage of skilled pilots that the RAF had to deal with.
Of course, some planes were known to be 'lemons' - and, sad to record, were parcelled out to inexperienced replacement pilots, based on the callous but logical assessment that the best equipment should go to the best pilot.
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