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Old 09-07-2012, 12:58 PM
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Default why they say a perpetum mobil its imposible what about the drinking bird?

perpetum: for ever

mobile: moves:

according the latin ethimology of the concept a drinking bird will move forever if placed for example in a well

according physics a perpetuum mobil of the second kind is that one that not only moves as the perpetuum mobile of the first kind( as the solar system orbiting) but that if there was no friction would move faster and faster and with friction will keep moving

so in this century with been witness of the discovery of the holy grail of science a perpetum movile

but the universities sponsored by petrochenmicals have gone fast to brainwashed us into that yes it moves forever but is not a perpetum movil cause is not magic just evaporation

what about 1 km big 1000 tons drinking birds to solve energy problems?

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Old 09-07-2012, 01:07 PM
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It's not classed as a perpetual motion machine because, either it uses an external energy source OR sooner or later it will need to stop and go to the toilet? one or the other!

Has anyone ever used this as a way of going useful work?

Sometimes things like this don't scale well.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:52 PM
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would the universe be considered a perpetum mobile?

i think so then its not imposible

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also if you compare a dinking bird with an steam engine youll see why the drinking bird is a perpetuum mobile of the second class which DECREASES the universe entropy

an steam engine from the transformtaion of hi pressure water with HIGH energy into steam at atmospheric pressure with LOW energy obtains WORK

a dinking bird from the transformation of low energy liquid into high energy vapour obtain WORK

natural perpetual inverse entropy

besides dont get us lost in semantics science sophisms, time travel and give a driniking bird to leonardo and ask him if its perepetumm motion or not
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:19 PM
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would the universe be considered a perpetum mobile?
Simply put: No. As far the current theories(there are several) go, all of them come to some sort of an end.
1) Gravity wins -> Big crush(anti-big bang)
2) Gravity loses -> Dark death, all matter is scattered so thinly that two atoms can be found at distances that the galaxies have from each other now
3) in the event that there is an gravity equilibrium, everything will stay put, but all stars will eventually die, either go dwarf and shut down, nova, or collapse to a black hole. In the end, it will be dark, cold and dead.

But let's not worry, no one of us will ever see it
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:09 AM
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Entropy is a big downer!
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:12 AM
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:11 PM
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well here my educated theory based on futurama episode of the only forward time machine:

eventually all atoms decay into a big nothing by radioactive decay with which the bibang conditions are repeated and the bigbang happens again

one question:

lets suppose entropy of the universe keeps growing: what does it matter if it can grow infinitally?

on the dinking bird:

the dinking bird is the most revolutionary engine till now since it produces energy from coolness produced by evaporation in the peak, all engines we know are based on heating up

work form coolness = inverse entropy?

i admit theres a limit in the bird in height but not in THICKNESS

it would be posible to build a dinking bird scaled one trillion times in thickness with which the work output would grow to a trillion squared for the surface growing four times as thickness doubles

wtf theres even an ufo in those giant drinking birds video

why not to make a toy instead of working on batteries works on a drinking bird

all kids would love it i know im one but its supressed by the petrochemicals who conttrol politics and education
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:21 PM
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There is one big problem with your hypothesis.

You.


Go and think of something original rather than regurgitating information or theories from whatever textbooks you're "studying" from.

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things like friction, irregularity of surfaces, wear and external factors will eventually bring your drinking bird to a stop.

Nothing's eternal, apart for your senseless ramblings that is..
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:11 PM
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nope according science the bird will go on forever as long as theres water in the plate and evaporation happens( which even haoppens at very low temperatures)

you want something original and not regurgitated? here it is:

there are many colour wheels heres how to build the human one and authentic:




the secret? AFTERIMAGE

by that you know pink opposite colour is green if you tried red dots you would find out opposite colour in the wheel and best match it would light blue

that is in the true colour wheel the afterimage of each colour is in opposite postion

this is usefull to dress up elegantly
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