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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-05-2012, 06:42 PM
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Default Weather/Terrain effects. Surely this is the minimum we expect for CloD or the Sequel

It's difficult to sit on the wall here because we can all see that CloD has potential. Reading the latest posts though it appears that CloD will only be fixed as best they can, as the Sequel is now the priority. There is to be no more development for CloD, what you have is what you'll get...other than fixes to broken bits.

Graphically I have always been irritated by IL2: 1946 and CloD due to the draw distances or should I say management of draw distances.

I hate the fact buildings appear like popcorn even when settings are tweaked through the full-range from low to high amounts and similar on texture settings. I don;t know why this hasn't or can't be fixed as there is nothing worse than flying low over the deck only to see the landscape 'literally' being drawn in front of you.

The promise of Weather, new clouds....effectively atmosphere that immerses you in the environment you are flying in, effectively destroys the illusion of Britain. Weather in Britain can be miserable with days being lost to rain.

The British campaign should at-least have had the Hurricane or Spitfire sat on a runway as rain falls and a low overcast hangs overhead.

The Aircraft takes off, breaks through the overcast into sunlight and a blanket of cloud is laid out below making retreating enemy easy to spot.

Dogfights ensue, dancing above and below the cloud cover....this is BoB??

The least we should expect is this (link below)

Now I know many will bleat...Arcade! So-what? I am not talking about gameplay...I'm talking GRAPHICS!!!

I'm all for the detail we get in the aircraft, I'm all for the attention to detail of the 'fixed' FM and DM...they are incredible, that's what CloD (sorry IL2) is renowned for. Please make CloD as accurate as that.

However just throw away the landscape, terrain and cloud models. Give us atmosphere. Give us rain, cloud layers...give us immersion!

This weather is the least we should expect of CloD and anyone who says that this weather and cloud detail is 'rubbish' in this video, really is a Fanboy of Fanboy's!

I don't want pop up, I don't want pop up clouds, ground, buildings, trees...I just want a basic, simple level of weather that this 'Arcade' game creates easily and successfully:



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Old 09-05-2012, 07:15 PM
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I totally agree with u!!!
Waiting for better times...patiently
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:15 PM
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in sequel im pretty sure that they will do the best
the question is what is going to happen with the CLOD
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:00 PM
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Hit the nail on the head my friend. CLoD is like a beautiful women to look at but not a brain in her pretty head. Great to play with for a short time but you quikly grow board. I really hope they can fix but I have my doubts.

CLoD...a stupid person; blockhead; dolt.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:35 PM
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I was so immersed by Wings of Puke that I removed it from my hard drive after playing with it for only a couple hours.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:14 PM
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The plan is to get the weather working for the sequel, and as COD will be merge-able with the next instalment the weather (and other improvements + updates to the engine) will be usable in COD too.

So, we'll get it, but it's going to be a waiting game.

I'll also speculate that when they introduce cloudy/overcast, stormy, etc conditions that they will have to tweak and 'recalibrate' the lighting settings - and this should mean that the current slightly over-dulled, pastel effect for COD's perpetually bright sunny skies will be redone and improved as well.

And as the Russian Front will have both winter and summer conditions they will also have to re-work and fine-tune the current always-high icing settings for clouds. So no more icing up flying through British summer clouds.

In fact, since coming to terms with the probability that most of what I want will be supplied in the sequel I have been enjoying a near-Buddhist state of contemplative tranquillity regarding the current state of COD and no longer care about Beta and Steam patches.
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I was so immersed by Wings of Puke that I removed it from my hard drive after playing with it for only a couple hours.
Shame you never experienced the Graphics and weather effects shown in the video above. These would be a GREAT addition to the authentic immersion in the (allow me to beat you to it) SUPERIOR CloD)

Sometimes an Ostrich has to raise it's head above the sand to actually see that there are other options available?

Thanks for not laying an egg David!

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Now answering your point David.

When was the last-time you took a simulated aircraft through a cloud-cover that is shown in the video? It's an opaque layer of cloud. A fight could be going on below it or above it but you don't know unless you fly through it. There are no tracers visible, there are no see-through points...it's an immersive 3D world where a player can use the weather to their advantage.

I appreciate you didn't like WoP, I can't make you like it. It is Arcade, but it also has a much better representation of terrain, lighting, no obvious pop-up....and it has cloud and weather effects.

You don't like it. I get it. You have said many times.

Now, regarding the weather conditions and Graphics on the ground....CloD could learn a lot!

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So you can state your opinion and he can't?

I am sure that the MG team could make an awesome landscape if they only had a 1km square area to work with
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Shame you never experienced the Graphics and weather effects shown in the video above.
I did experience them. I still removed the game from my computer.
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