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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-13-2012, 06:04 PM
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Default Constructive Critics for the Russian Villages

I think it´s worth a thread, don´t you?

I suggest the following standard:

What is Wrong?
In my Opinion the "gardens" look to empty. There are no Bushes, Trees, etc.

What should be done?
If possible, add more bushes or Trees close to the houses.



What is Wrong?
Churches are normally in the center of the Town. In the few screenshots I saw, it´s at the boarder of the town. is that historically correct?

What should be done?
Place Churches in Town.



What is Wrong?
Picture 4 of Black Six last Post on 13.apr. The walls of the Curch do look strange I can not exactly describe what is wrong but, the wall seems to be in a wrong perspective(looks like flying).

What should be done?
Maybe it could be changed with making the shadows darker if closer to the ground



What is Wrong?
Currently in CloD way too much Houses are lightened at night! If I remember right, people had the order to keep houses dark to avoid bomb-raids or giving bombers orientation.

What should be done?
Think about letting more houses dark in the sequel! (and patch it in CloD)



Beside that, excellent job!
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:11 PM
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I think it´s worth a thread, don´t you?
I suggest the following standard:

What is Wrong?
In my Opinion the "gardens" look to empty. There are no Bushes, Trees, etc.

What should be done?
If possible, add more bushes or Trees close to the houses.
oh men.... this is a flight simulation and no garden sim.....
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:13 PM
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they were asking for it, so....
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:17 PM
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What is Wrong?
In my Opinion the "gardens" look to empty.
I'm not buying anything from 1C unless the "gardens" are modeled correctly ... what!
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:24 PM
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Post some photographs to support your views. It's still a pointless thread, but at least then you'll have some cover to justify it.
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:29 PM
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Well, people complain about English colors so why not complain about Russian colors, rite?
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Old 04-13-2012, 06:30 PM
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To be honest, I'm living in Estonia at the moment and there are a lot of small villages, particularly out East near the Russian border, that look a lot like what the dev updates show. Baring in mind these were probably built in the times of the Russian Empire I can guess they're pretty much similar. In these cases, yes, the churches a lot of the time are on the outskirts of the towns, not necessarily in the middle. The gardens look pretty accurate, even though this isn't a garden sim as Corto said. The houses actually look bang on right, even the colours just look spot on.

Otherwise though, if there's one thing I think we can certainly trust 1c to do well, it's model the countryside around their offices. There's a big difference between the amount of money, time and resources it'd take to go and recce and get an idea of 1940's Britain than it is to get an idea of 1940's Russia for them, and from what I have seen they have it pretty much right in my eyes.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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I want to see wild horses dashing around, and flocks of birds.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:15 PM
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Ample photographic evidence of SS units winding their way through Russia and Ukraine with churches literally out in the middle of almost nowhere. They look fine. Most Russian villages today look very similar to what they did in 1940, only the tanks are missing. If you have seen a half dozen, you have seen them all. I've been to a couple dozen.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:18 PM
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To be honest, I'm living in Estonia at the moment and there are a lot of small villages, particularly out East near the Russian border, that look a lot like what the dev updates show. Baring in mind these were probably built in the times of the Russian Empire I can guess they're pretty much similar. In these cases, yes, the churches a lot of the time are on the outskirts of the towns, not necessarily in the middle. The gardens look pretty accurate, even though this isn't a garden sim as Corto said. The houses actually look bang on right, even the colours just look spot on.

Otherwise though, if there's one thing I think we can certainly trust 1c to do well, it's model the countryside around their offices. There's a big difference between the amount of money, time and resources it'd take to go and recce and get an idea of 1940's Britain than it is to get an idea of 1940's Russia for them, and from what I have seen they have it pretty much right in my eyes.
Spot on comment. I Trust the devs have a fairly accurate idea of what Russian villages looked like in 1940-45, pretty much same as today. There at thousands of books with pics, and they can go to them. Five miles outside of Leningrad (St. Petersburg) today and you think you have been transported back in time. The drive to where the encirclement was broken in Leningrad is like time traveling, and its right outside the city.
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