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Old 11-25-2011, 12:29 PM
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Default Hurricane Rotol mixture controls?

Ok, so I feel the need to try and get this straight in my head lol...

Are the mixture controls on the Hurricane Rotol are reversed? When in the Rich position it shows as 0% and when Weak at 100% or is that supposed to mean the amount of air in the mix, ie; 0% air at rich and subsequently lots of air at weak mixture? Colour me confused!!!

The controls are obviously designed that at idle you can only have a rich mixture and can only go full weak once past 50% throttle, so assuming it's not reversed at higher throttle settings more air is in the mix yes?

Also, there appears to be a bug in that as you reduce throttle below 50% you can physically see the mixture control be collected and move toward the rich end along with the throttle, this does not appear to affect the actual mixture settings until you touch whatever control you have set it to however? So you can have throttle at idle and mixture at full lean which should not be possible due to the physical controls right?

Anybody care to educate me?

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Old 11-25-2011, 12:36 PM
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Actually the mixture control for the Hurricane in CoD is correct (Rich = pull lever fully back; Lean = push lever fully towards the instrument panel).

By contrast, the CoD Spitfire mixture control is incorrect and is a glaring error that amazingly the devs have missed completely. It should be the same as the Hurricane's.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:38 PM
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So how does that correspond with rich showing as 0% and weak 100%?
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:48 PM
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Normally it should be as Snapper said:

Lever back = Auto Rich (automatic)
Lever forward = lean (to use only with limited boost and RPM)

(Both on Hurricanes and Spits)

In game it's a mess. To figure out if it's actually lean or auto-rich, give full throttle and put the prop to fine pitch. If the plane starts shaking like hell then it's set to weak
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:56 PM
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the question is also:
should the cockpit lever move the same direction as your controler lever/axis or should alwasy be lever/axis forward (=100%) mean RICH.
And the cockpit lever would move correct to set RICH mixture.

The italian planes behave like that as example.- cockpit and controler levers are moving in oposite direction.

i personaly like more, 100% means RICH.
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Old 11-25-2011, 12:58 PM
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Yes, fully back is rich.

I have a CH throttle quadrant and it has a detent that puts the mixture at 18~19% when in that position. I have found that using that position after achieving 500 or so feet after take off is just perfect for all flight operations at all altitudes. Nice blue stack flames and smooth running at all throttle and prop settings.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:00 PM
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So how does that correspond with rich showing as 0% and weak 100%?
Honestly, don't know. I can't find my Hurricane I Pilots Notes, but here's a link I found on the Storm of War forum, thanks to EAF_Starfire:


http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php?...266&Itemid=253

Unfortunately, the cockpit illustrations in these Notes are not clear enough to answer your question above properly. Will check my modest library at home to see if there is a high-res photo of the Hurricane I mixture lever. (This lever was removed in Hurri II's when mixture control became fully automatic). But important for operation in CoD (and real Hurricanes, too): pull back for Rich; push forward for lean.
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Old 11-25-2011, 03:52 PM
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The real question is: Does the mixture actually do anything in this game?

I've yet to see any improvement in performance at altitude.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:07 PM
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Try going to full rich at altitude, then get back to me.

Mixture adjustment is not a magic performance enhancer. All you can expect is to have the aircraft running smoothly.

I've had my Hurri/Rotol to 25,000+ ft online and it ran Ok. It's no P47 at altitude by any stretch, but it ran smoothly.
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Old 11-25-2011, 04:08 PM
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The real question is: Does the mixture actually do anything in this game?

I've yet to see any improvement in performance at altitude.
I guess You hven' try yet. Btw mixt has nothing to do with improving the perfs.

I am sure that flying canopy open deny you from hving some clear minded logics
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