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Old 11-05-2011, 02:19 PM
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Default Warm Up Times of Radial Engines.

Assuming that once aircraft FMs are adjusted, I am having difficulty seeing any radial engined aircraft being used online much, except by AIs. Why? Because in reality, even in warm climates, a large radial can take up to half an hour to properly warm up, whereas the water cooled engines can be gotten off the ground in considerably shorter time.

Here we run up against one of the issues of total realism vs. enjoyment of the title. I know that the offline crowd will have no issue here, but my focus is for online. And I dare add that the reality of radial engined aircraft operations is such that no pilot would go out to a stone cold aircraft at the start of a mission, as it would have been warmed up by the ground crew, then possible even have the fuel topped off before the actual mission start time.

So how do we put the radial engined aircraft into the sim and maintain some sort of usability for them? This will be even more critical as we move forward in time with the series,and more and more radial types come into play with all sides.

Will say online wars have to have a half hour earlier start time just for those flying radial engined craft? None of us have all day to fly the sim you know.
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Old 11-05-2011, 02:27 PM
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In a war time environment ALL aircraft would have been warmed up by ground crew before the sun was even on the horizon and kept warm throughout the day.


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Old 11-05-2011, 03:29 PM
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How about an extra switch in the Realism options menu called "Warm start" which let all planes warm up quickly while still maintaining the start-up procedures and CEM? It doesn't get much simpler then that, gives the option to those inclined to prefer it.
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How about an extra switch in the Realism options menu called "Warm start" which let all planes warm up quickly while still maintaining the start-up procedures and CEM? It doesn't get much simpler then that, gives the option to those inclined to prefer it.
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Old 11-05-2011, 03:44 PM
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I don't know about radial engines.

For fighters warming the engine never has bothered me as during warm up time I do all the things preparing for flight and usually it is quickly warm.

But I agree just get an option engine warmed up in the difficulties setting would satisfy all I think.
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:08 PM
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LOL! yeah, I try to seem a bit ignorant sometimes so I don't get banned. It's a fine balance.
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Old 11-05-2011, 05:47 PM
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I don't know about radial engines.

For fighters warming the engine never has bothered me as during warm up time I do all the things preparing for flight and usually it is quickly warm.

But I agree just get an option engine warmed up in the difficulties setting would satisfy all I think.

I actually enjoy the warm up phase of the inline engines. It does add to the immersive experience without causing undue frustration. Also gives time to adjust the compass and gun sight. However sitting there for half an hour waiting for the G50 or Blenheim to warm up is really not cutting it at all.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:04 PM
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I actually enjoy the warm up phase of the inline engines. It does add to the immersive experience without causing undue frustration. Also gives time to adjust the compass and gun sight. However sitting there for half an hour waiting for the G50 or Blenheim to warm up is really not cutting it at all.
Half an hour to warm up a G.50?! Don't know how you do it but for me it takes 3-4 minutes tops.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:52 AM
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Addman, if you would share your proceedure I would be very grateful.

I have tried every way I know to get one off the ground and always, and I mean every freaking time, the engine seizes.

Nice fight today BTW. I wish our connection issues had not gotten in the way, I was enjoying our fight.

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Old 11-06-2011, 07:45 AM
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Addman, if you would share your proceedure I would be very grateful.

I have tried every way I know to get one off the ground and always, and I mean every freaking time, the engine seizes.

Nice fight today BTW. I wish our connection issues had not gotten in the way, I was enjoying our fight.

Cheers.

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I enjoyed our little tangle too but yeah, wish I had better latency with ATAG or that the Repka servers had the same missions as ATAG.

With regards to the G.50, I made a track for you but then as I watched I noticed that CEM is porked when recording so no use there. Anywho, here's what you need to do: 1. Give a little throttle before starting the engine, I mean like 5-10% only. 2. Start engine and wait a little, maybe half a minute or a little more until the engine sound starts getting even. 3. Increase throttle by around 10-20% and wait a little while. Might wanna open the rads and oil rad to full now as the temperatures get fairly high during take-off. 4. Give about 10-20% more throttle and wait until the temperature reaches 100-150 degrees and slam the throttle if you want to. Then engine will probably sputter and rev up and down like crazy but once it reaches 200 degrees it starts sounding like a sowing machine which is historically correct for the g.50 , you could avoid this by sitting on the airfield for another 5 minutes or so to let it warm up properly but there's no need to really. Basically you need to give small increments of throttle during warm up and listen to the engine, if you throttle too much it will shut down.
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