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10-05-2011, 02:07 AM
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Drove the boss's '96 911 today.
Yes, it's fast.
Yes, it has fantastic brakes. Yes, it is incredibly well balanced. Yes, it's so easy to drive a grandmother could take it to the grocery store. And yes, it's totally boring. Too refined. Too civilized. Too much like everycar... The older 911s (like the 356 before them) were all tingly and alive. The steering wheel directly connected your finger tips to the contact patch of the tire and pavement. That beautiful boxer six in the back was always at your ear. The feel and sound of machinery working in harmony was in your face. It demanded that you pay attention. It was visceral. It was Steve McQueen blasting through Arnage at LeMans. It was a real sports car. These newer 911s are too refined, too good, too removed from the act of driving. They are Roger Penske on his way to a board meeting. 
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10-05-2011, 12:27 PM
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Well if I had that kind of money.........
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10-05-2011, 01:06 PM
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dude man, grab a helmet before Baron Wasteland reads this LOL
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10-05-2011, 07:51 PM
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And talking about grandmothers, did you press the "PASM" button twice to switch to sport+ mode? You would probably bite your tongue driving in this mode (and surely your grandmother couldn't). On the other side, your boss would have been crazy to give it to you in this mode, it is like giving a loaded gun to a kid! Anyway, you had a good experience, search a bit where the two buttons are (below the navi) so next time your boss offers...  ~S~
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10-05-2011, 07:59 PM
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i think im gonna get a yamaha special 250
but whats the cheapest car you can get with no hood?
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10-05-2011, 09:22 PM
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 ElAurens was unaware that he was secretly being recorded. Now that the truth is revealed, perhaps he will tell us how he really feels  Last edited by baronWastelan; 10-05-2011 at 09:25 PM.
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10-05-2011, 10:05 PM
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Sorry guys, I stand by my post.
I've done lots of track days in the past. In my job I drive lots of different newer and older exotics and sports cars. The 911 has morphed into a GT car, especially the portly water cooled versions. There is no getting around that. For my taste the only new Porsches that come close to the essence of what a sports car is are the Cayman S and the Boxter Spyder. Personally if I was going to own a 911 the only one I would consider is the RS America. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the newer 911s are bad cars, they are not, but I find them lacking in soul. I can say the same thing about the newer Aston Martins as well. Wonderful cars, but dull. On the flip side I had the '63 E-Type from the collection out on the road today and it made me feel like I was driving. Really driving. I could feel the rear end thinking about stepping out just a little as that wonderful 3.8 litre six oozed torque through the contact patches coming out of a tight right hander. Tiny correction in the steering and squeeze the go pedal a bit more, clip the apex, squirt out and select fourth... Ah... Glorious...   Me at work.
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10-05-2011, 10:21 PM
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I doubt you could list 5 power-train and suspension differences between the RS America and a "'96 911", or how many of those components are interchangeable between the 2. Wonder if you're conflating "'96 911" with "996"?
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10-05-2011, 10:50 PM
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The RS is a lot lighter. No AC or electric doo dads. And no computer nanny messing with the brakes or throttle either. Like I said, the 993 is not a bad car, but soul stirring it is not.
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10-06-2011, 12:28 AM
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I don't seem to have a computer nanny on my 993 messing with my brakes or throttle. I have a cable connecting accelerator pedal to the throttle body on the engine, same as RS America (964). I have hydraulic brake master cylinder with ABS, same as 964 RS America. Electric power windows, same as .... [guess].
Tell us the differences between the two models in the M64 engine. For bonus points, list 2 or 3 features from the 993 engine that many 964 owners install. But, the 993 is newer, and therefore more "high tech", and therefore "watered down".
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