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01-21-2011, 06:08 PM
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Tactics for Cliffs of Dover.
OK Chaps, assuming (I know, I know...) that the FMs in Cliffs of Dover are fairly true to historical data, the BF 109E and the Spitfire will be fairly evenly matched up to 16,000 ft. Above that altitude the Spitfire starts pulling ahead of the Messer in terms of speed, and at 20.000ft the Spitfire has a decided advantage.
So what this tells us is that we will have to get high and stay high to be successful in the Spitfire. We also must assume that Jerry will not fly historically, but will pretend it's 1944. So, they will not stay with the bombers, they will not engage in low level turn fights, and in short they will be the buzz killers we know them to be.  So Chaps, get altitude, then get some more. Don't give Jerry the chance to be the "Hun in the sun". In short beat them at their own sick game. Leave the bombers to the Hurricanes, listen to your radar controller, and be back home in one piece for tea and medals. Carry on. 
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 Personally speaking, the P-40 could contend on an equal footing with all the types of Messerschmitts, almost to the end of 1943. ~Nikolay Gerasimovitch Golodnikov 
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01-21-2011, 06:18 PM
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Don't forget that the Spitfire pilots (well the smart ones anyway) will also be using tactics that the RAF only adopted later in the war, and the Spitfire still has a big advantage over the Bf109 for manoeuvrability, regardless of altitude.
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01-21-2011, 06:20 PM
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We tend to fly as historical as possible but I take you are talking about a regular night in a dogfight server? Then yes, hardly any organisation will lead to the situation you describe. I wish you Allied pilots luck once it launches!
If you are looking for realism, we 5./JG27 are planning to set up a realism CoD server once it's out with historical accurate attacks, but were still in early stage of our plans, no doubt there will be others with the same plans! We hope take part in realism co-op missions once CoD is running on full power as well 
Last edited by Sven; 01-21-2011 at 06:24 PM.
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01-21-2011, 06:21 PM
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El Aurens, you just forget one thing  That animated movie Searching for Nemo by Pixar..well, the red pilots tend to be like the seagulls in it screaming: Mine! Mine! Mine! Seriously speaking, I wait for the online experience very much. Maybe it will resurrect the old times when we all had fun. I miss a lot of those guys back then..AFJ, 81Sqn, Cesspool, BlitzPigs etc. You know them We had fun, cheered after a great fight. Maybe time has given a golden edge on the clouds but anyway..those were the times.
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01-21-2011, 06:25 PM
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Ok but it's not the next Spit LF variant have to stay lower than the enemy: higher is better in every plane. I'm not going to fly my hurricane at bombers' altitude. I fly high until I see them.
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 A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria. Last edited by 6S.Manu; 01-21-2011 at 06:28 PM.
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01-21-2011, 06:28 PM
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Well,if you want the LW to fly historically,then I expect the RAF to fly hugely outnumbered,in tight VIC formation (known to amused LW pilots as the 'Idioten reihe') and have a 'sitting duck' weaver flying around behind them...
Looking forward to it!
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01-21-2011, 06:40 PM
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It'll be what I've seen in virtually any flightsim I've played online ... clouds of dweebs upping from Hawkinge/Manston and Calais-Marck gangbanging it out at 500 feet in the middle of the Channel.
 If you seek historical gameplay online be prepared to seek for like-minded folks with magnifying glasses. You won't find it on standard servers.
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01-21-2011, 06:43 PM
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It's all about SP for me ... initally
I've been rereading The Most Dangerous Enemy by Bungay, and i really hope that 1C recreates all the strategic planning nuances and blunders of the luftwaffe. raids that start off badly, miscues and missed opportunities. I'd love to see the evolution of the fighters from being free roaming to being shackled down to the bombers as the battle goes on. I'm most excited to see how "human" the AI is. Last edited by Biggs; 01-21-2011 at 06:45 PM.
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, i gotta try the spit first i think, after all im a brit, but i love 109s to....i love them all 
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