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Old 01-04-2011, 10:07 AM
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There’s a company (I shall not say which one) that recently posed problems with the name of their seventy years old products. Apparently it did the same in the past. Just take a look at this old plastic kit from the Fifties... Maybe I’m mistaken, but this anonymous “Navy Assault Plane” reminds me a certain fighter (I shall not say which one).
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:38 AM
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There’s a company (I shall not say which one) that recently posed problems with the name of their seventy years old products. Apparently it did the same in the past. Just take a look at this old plastic kit from the Fifties... Maybe I’m mistaken, but this anonymous “Navy Assault Plane” reminds me a certain fighter (I shall not say which one).
I just dont understand this.

I, naively, considered any advertising is good advertising.

Clearly, the sim world is forcibly ignored by certain companies.

Perhaps those companies CEO types should be made aware of the situation....?
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Old 01-04-2011, 11:49 AM
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I just dont understand this.

I, naively, considered any advertising is good advertising.

Clearly, the sim world is forcibly ignored by certain companies.

Perhaps those companies CEO types should be made aware of the situation....?
There was/is a situation with an American company that makes lots of money selling military hardware and services. Read this from a current thread at sim central. In particular the answer given by Oleg I dont blame him for being cagey after what happened
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My understanding of it (and I stand ready to be corrected) is that UBI used the name Grumman on the CD box without first asking permission. This was a major screwup on someone's part and probably guaranteed that NG was not going to want an amiable settlement. If it is true this sort of thing is a blatant rights infringement. UBI should have asked first.
I think thats how it started. Reading Olegs reply to the copyright issue in the SimHQ discussion I dont think it looks good for SoW Pacific
What did he say? The most recent interview I read on the subject said that there were no problems for Storm of War. Pacific Fighters sits under a cloud on this but Storm of War is an independent product. So long as the mistakes made aren't repeated for Pacific Fighters.

There were also legal disputes over N-G WWII aircraft model kits being sold (as in glue and paint model kits) and that legal dispute seems to have disappeared as you can still go buy a plastic Hellcat to build.
20mm: Several years ago a hot topic were the efforts of some aircraft and race car manufacturers to reinforce their intellectual property and copyrights. Is this an issue you've had to address, and how have you succeeded overcoming any limitations?

Flexman: This is an on-going issue for us. There was a move to pass a law through the U.S. Senate called the “Military Toy Replica Act HR 607” and it keeps being re-introduced but never being passed. The act was written to “prohibit defense contractors from requiring licenses or fees for use of military likenesses and designations.” So you should write to your senator and ask them to support this act if / when it’s re-introduced which was last in 2008. We're trying to obtain an official license but as a small indie outfit it presents something of a legal challenge.

Oleg: Simply don’t make any problematic branches of simulation. It is one of the ways to resolve the problem if they do not want advertising of their production. Really, they should pay developers for the modeling of their production that makes the company more known and kids begin to respect such companies from a young age. /quote]
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:27 PM
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Yes, it resembles a certain aircraft operated by a certain country, I dare not say which one. For the sake of argument, lets call it "Canada" and refer to the pilots as "South Canadians"

BTW: Have you noticed that the heavy bombers in the Silent Hunter III series are all Lancasters, instead of their trans-atlantic cousins?

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Old 01-04-2011, 12:52 PM
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There’s a company (I shall not say which one) that recently posed problems with the name of their seventy years old products. Apparently it did the same in the past. Just take a look at this old plastic kit from the Fifties... Maybe I’m mistaken, but this anonymous “Navy Assault Plane” reminds me a certain fighter (I shall not say which one).
That's the Goodman Hillcut I think.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:07 PM
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Hillcut is what the New Zealanders called it
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I wonder if the Ho 228 will also become unspeakable as the unmentionables made a scale 1:1 model of it to test its stealth capabilities:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...#tab-time-line
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:01 PM
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I wonder if the Ho 228 will also become unspeakable as the unmentionables made a scale 1:1 model of it to test its stealth capabilities:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...#tab-time-line
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Speaking half-seriously, if we (God forgive) do not mention the Av***er’s name, could we have a General Motors built TBM, perhaps with the English name of Tarpon, or with no name at all?
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I think that the company whose name we can not say were claiming that its "likeness" even a digital model was subject to copywrite. Strangley an add on for Yankee Air Pirate called Rising Sun has the unmentionable aircraft PLUS ships made by the same company that we NEED for Il-2
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This affair always make me think of starting a political career to be able to get to a position where I can axe some proposal to buy expensive crap from:
Northrop Grumman

Yes! I said their filthy name loud... May their products all rust and fall to pieces, or get sunk as artificial reefs somewhere.

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