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Old 09-14-2010, 04:43 AM
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Cool Advice for aviators switching to Simulation Mode

The learning curve of Simulation Mode might come off to some as a quagmire of new unattainable skills. The three major questions that frequently visit my ears are. . . .

Q) ”How do I find the Enemy?”
A)Hit the button that is assigned to your Map and point your plane towards the red dots for fighters and or triangles for fighters.

Q) “How can I tell if it’s a friendly?”
A)You might not like this, but you need to get close enough to distinguish the color markings on the potential target you are following.

Q) “Why do I keep stalling?”
A)You might be stalling for reasons
1.You might be pulling back on the stick too hard.
2.You might have lost too much air speed in a turn (you’re turning too tight for the abilities of your plane to manage.
3.You made a tight abrupt turn without having your combat flaps down.

OK now for the real tips which I will make as direct as possible.

1. Climbing in a loop when you are being followed will get you killed about 95% of the time.

2. Climbing after a pilot you are following you give you about a 95% chance of killing them, unless you are being follow by his wingman (he is the part of the 5%). Who will most likely shoot you down after you down his mate or prior too denying you the kill.

3. Shoot in short burst! The initial burst of your armament will exit the muzzle of your guns in a synchronized volley if you took an accurate shot, He will turn into a flamer or a puzzle. Shooting in short bursts also helps you range and lead the target. In a zoom and boom situation hold down the trigger at were you think your target is going to be, and stop shooting after your sights have reached the mid tale section of his craft.

4. If you dive as close to the deck as survivable-ly possible cut the throttle engage combat flaps or even drop your landing gear, engage your landing flaps, pull your landing gear back up and pull back on the stick in a reciprocal correlation as your closing speed to the ground. If done properly you will hear the loud crash of your former aggressor. After this rise your flaps or they will be jammed. Landing flaps also help with tight slow turns but will jam if your going to fast.

5. Backing in one direction gives your aggressor the ability, and time to hone in his guns on you. It also keeps your wing mates from angling in on your enemy’s six. Going in one direction usually gets you killed because you disallow your wing mates from helping you.

6. When attacking a B-17 attack from the belly so you pull up at close to a 85/90 degree angle as possible when firing your weapons you have to time this right he has to be close or you will have to lead. Once you have overshot the bomber keep moving away from your target you want to arch around the B-17 if you stop at his six and try to down him guess what? You’re dead or very lucky. Aim for the wings and between two of the engines this gives you a higher chance of downing that bomber. Zoom and boom same thing kinda (works real well with rockets). Dive down from behind while leading your target way ahead of it; moving in the same direction (numb n#*s) at a 45/60 degree angle. Shoot for the wings and in between two of the engines you want to make it seem you will crash into it but don’t . Once you have overshot keep going he won’t be able to hit you (Rinse wash repeat) >====D <BomberLOW Direction -> X<FighterHIGH destination ->

7. Well I have to get to bed so I work at 6am have to wake up at 4am I will edit this some more fix spelling issues and give you guys more tips. Mee tired!
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:48 AM
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Q) “How can I tell if it’s a friendly?”
A)You might not like this, but you need to get close enough to distinguish the color markings on the potential target you are following.

hello " fw190d9 great ace"

totally agree with u,i just add a way to identified friends or ennemies quickly,in fact try to study and remenber the silhouettes of the ww2 planes in the books or internet (it is easy and fun if u love ww2 planes),before the game start try to see what planes the ennemies used and try to kill them .
if there are the same planes in the two teams the qblackdeathq solution is the best ,i think.

see u soon guys

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Old 09-14-2010, 01:18 PM
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Q) “How can I tell if it’s a friendly?”
A)You might not like this, but you need to get close enough to distinguish the color markings on the potential target you are following.

hello " fw190d9 ace"

totally agree with u,i just add a way to identified friends or ennemies quickly,in fact try to study and remenber the silhouettes of the ww2 planes in the books or internet (it is easy and fun if u love ww2 planes),before the game start try to see what planes the ennemies used and try to kill them .
if there are the same planes in the two teams the qblackdeathq solution is the best ,i think.

see u soon guys
Olife 100%!
key to recognise enemy in team battle is:

1) remember what type of plane are in the enemy team
2) recocgnise their wing shape and silhouettes from distance ( Get used how the game engine switches between plane level of details lol )

Getting closer is dangerous and leads to a certain death or damage by wingmates.

Or, if you wanna cheat, just shoot a short brust near the unknown plane and examine it from the target camera that open at bottom right of the screen, lol ( don't do that, it's a joke )

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Old 09-14-2010, 03:55 PM
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Or, if you wanna cheat, just shoot a short brust near the unknown plane and examine it from the target camera that open at bottom right of the screen, lol ( don't do that, it's a joke )[/QUOTE]

hello vdomini great ace,
hehehe!!looool!!exelent joke!!

yesterday night i was ridiculous with the friendly fire!i shoot 3 times the same wingman ,themeistor,happy for me this guy is a gentleman ,i feel very stupid...
exuse me again themeistor...
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Old 09-14-2010, 04:43 PM
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Or, if you wanna cheat, just shoot a short brust near the unknown plane and examine it from the target camera that open at bottom right of the screen, lol ( don't do that, it's a joke )
hello vdomini great ace,
hehehe!!looool!!exelent joke!!

yesterday night i was ridiculous with the friendly fire!i shoot 3 times the same wingman ,themeistor,happy for me this guy is a gentleman ,i feel very stupid...
exuse me again themeistor...[/QUOTE]



Let me add that themeistor is getting very very good!! It's an awesome pilot! i've had very nice 1 vs 1 battle with him yesterday
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Old 09-14-2010, 07:16 PM
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Olife 100%!
key to recognise enemy in team battle is:

1) remember what type of plane are in the enemy team
2) recocgnise their wing shape and silhouettes from distance ( Get used how the game engine switches between plane level of details lol )

Getting closer is dangerous and leads to a certain death or damage by wingmates.

Or, if you wanna cheat, just shoot a short brust near the unknown plane and examine it from the target camera that open at bottom right of the screen, lol ( don't do that, it's a joke )
Yes silhouettes are a good to know but somtimes you have some of the same planes on both sides best way is to visualy ID the targets color. back in the day guns were ranged at about 100 yards were the rounds would cross. wing mates are a problem and that is why you have yours to get behind you the target must be infront of your wing mate.
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:48 PM
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"4. If you dive as close to the deck as survivable-ly possible cut the throttle engage combat flaps or even drop your landing gear, engage your landing flaps, pull your landing gear back up and pull back on the stick in a reciprocal correlation as your closing speed to the ground. If done properly you will hear the loud crash of your former aggressor. After this rise your flaps or they will be jammed. Landing flaps also help with tight slow turns but will jam if your going to fast."


which planes have combat and landing flaps?

some pretty good advice tho and is pretty dead on from the times i have flown sim. hardest part is target aquision. if you can see them or keep your eye on them you have fighting chance. if not you are going to be flying silk rather than a plane.
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:41 PM
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"4. If you dive as close to the deck as survivable-ly possible cut the throttle engage combat flaps or even drop your landing gear, engage your landing flaps, pull your landing gear back up and pull back on the stick in a reciprocal correlation as your closing speed to the ground. If done properly you will hear the loud crash of your former aggressor. After this rise your flaps or they will be jammed. Landing flaps also help with tight slow turns but will jam if your going to fast."


which planes have combat and landing flaps?

some pretty good advice tho and is pretty dead on from the times i have flown sim. hardest part is target aquision. if you can see them or keep your eye on them you have fighting chance. if not you are going be flying silk rather than a plane.
All have them in sim on PS3 mate: raised, combat and should the landing gear be down landing flaps. Save for fixed undercarriage (eg stuka) which dont have combat flaps.
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Old 09-14-2010, 11:09 PM
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oh ok...thought you had 2 flap settings available at tjhe same time. but gear up is combat and gear down is landing..gotcha
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:06 AM
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Yes silhouettes are a good to know but somtimes you have some of the same planes on both sides best way is to visualy ID the targets color. back in the day guns were ranged at about 100 yards were the rounds would cross. wing mates are a problem and that is why you have yours to get behind you the target must be infront of your wing mate.
That's true. If a pilot is not sure, at the beginning is better to get close enough to spot the plane wing color before shooting, but after a while, when you get used to how game display planes on screen and map, knowing silhouettes and wing shapes and map usage is the best way to make sure you're hitting the right target. And, most important thing, to know what plane chase miles before getting at "wing color recognisable distance". I know that in real, most air battle was won by team work, wingman helping and covering each other... it would be very funny to try using some team / wingman tactics against enemy, maybe all wearing headset. In my opinion, of course! Thanks for the advices!

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