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07-08-2010, 06:14 AM
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Hey guys im new to this forum. Been playing Birds of Prey with the fellas on my PS3 but i was wondering how the PC Il2-Sturmovik games are? And if i decided to get one which i should get and on important thing are there P38 Lightnings cause it nearly made me cry when BoP didnt have them
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07-08-2010, 06:19 AM
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07-08-2010, 07:20 AM
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In terms of mechanics its still currently the best combat flight sim around and vastly better than Janes ever was. As for graphics, depends on the aircraft skinner and map but it can get quite good for an old sim. One of my 73 sqdn gladiators:  Here is one of Kristorf's screenshots of his new spitfire skin copied from the screenshots thread above. The terrain looks like the Slovakia Summer map provided with patch 4.09m. 
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07-08-2010, 10:45 AM
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its not an like birds of prey, it takes a lot of practice to get good at 1946, its more of a simulator, you can't just hop into it and fly, each plane has its own unique flight charicteristics, and it takes a long time to get the hang of'em, then you need to get to know the online... community, who the aces are, who the up-and-comers are, that kinda thing, so then you can learn how they fly so you can plan on how your gonna fight them later
 ... or in my case... most of the time its choose a different server, rather than fight them... if your ever in a server with a lot of dudes that are in the same squad and your not on the same team, in a squad or on teamspeak... just find a new server.. they can and will camp you on takeoff... well thats pretty much the good and the bad of IL2...I've been playing this game 9 years now and I'm still learning new stuff in IL2 every day, and there's always someone better... some more general info: there's 5 or 6 different servers you can play on that always have people in them, the difficulty and the timezones people use the servers varies, but there's always a populated server to join, i think some of the servers allow 64+ players, and they do max out during peak hours. 
Last edited by AKA_Tenn; 07-08-2010 at 11:30 AM.
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07-08-2010, 06:25 PM
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I certainly hope you take the plunge and get yourself a copy of Il2 1946. If you like BOP you will certainly like IL21946 as it has so much more to offer. I had a chance to fly the BOP Demo on my PC just to see what it was all about. I flew in Simulation mode and I can assure you it's not that much different than IL2 in terms of FM. There are a few differences but nothing unmanageble. There will be a learning curve but coming from BOP it's not as big as you think. You will take a step back in terms of graphics however I think there are plenty of places where IL2 still holds its own against any modern sim. Again I hope you pick it up. It's clearly the king of all WWII Simulations.
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07-08-2010, 09:39 PM
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Im really considering it. Ive been playing flight sims since my Dad introduced me to Chuck yeager Air to Air combat on original DOS file( I was 6 and was blowing Bf-109's and FW-190s out of the sky). Once i hit higher grades mainly 4th-7th I played the janes series of USAF and Combat Flight Simulator. hardest part for me will being able to identify targets with out a lock on, but im under the assumption that its like that for everyone at first. I will strive to be the best P-38 pilot the likes of which most new people have ever seen. The Fork Tail Devil will rain supreme! Hopefully my joystick still works Its one of the older Sidewinder Pro sticks so i feel confident. Is there anyone good at the p38 like really good?
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07-08-2010, 10:04 PM
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I can shoot anything down with it if that what you mean.
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07-08-2010, 10:20 PM
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I think you'll like the IL-2 P-38, kjwright. Handled properly, it is a killer in the air, and at ground attack too. You won't be able to turn fight with it, particularly at low altitude, so you need to learn 'zoom and boom' tactics. The contrarotating props make handling easy, as does the trike undercarriage. It handles pretty well on one engine too. About the only thing that catches people out is it's high-speed dive characteristics - fly too fast and you'll never pull out - just like the real thing...
If you only ever fly the P-38, expect an unpleasant surprise if you eventually try something with only one prop: IL-2 models torque and gyroscopic effects more realistically than most sims, and this takes getting used to. I'll see if I can find any handling notes for the P-38, for you, but a couple of suggestions to start with: (A) Don't carry more fuel than you need - it handles better at low weight, like any fighter. (b) The P-38 J VNE is 820 Km/h (indicated airspeed), P-38 L is 880 Km/h. Dive any faster and you are almost certainly going to have something nasty happen, very soon. In practice this means that you should start to pull out/throttle back well before you reach these speed. The P-38 L has a dive recovery brake, which helps, but you then risk blackout - IL-2 models that too.
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07-09-2010, 02:20 AM
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I bought IL1946 having heard so much about it playing BOP on Xbox. I wished I had bought it years ago! At first I thought the graphics looked dated but in many repects I now prefer the clean crisp rendering without that grainy atmospheric ambience that BOP has. It's a lot more difficult that's for sure but you can adjust the level of difficulty to your own preference without being confined to just three difficulty settings as on BOP. There is a hell of a lot to learn but I am absolutely hooked on it. The campaigns are so much better and, if you don't use Time Skip, some missions will take a good hour or so to complete. The only downside is that you won't experience the chat and banter like you do on PS3 (if you can find a game that is!), the upside is that you won't have any problems getting an on-line game (getting a kill is the exception....
 ) . My advice is to get it but be prepared to be a IL1946 junkie......!
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