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Old 02-16-2010, 03:27 PM
I/ZG52_Gaga I/ZG52_Gaga is offline
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Default Let us please avoid the black screen in next sim.

Dear friends,

an issue that always bothered me regarding the way the game handles "PK".

I firmly believe that the black screen when in a “PK” situation is totally inappropriate.

• If it’s done on purpose, well…. then things get really dark ..…

as in

“I want to provoke negativity”

or as in

“I want to drive the competitive male to madness

and /or

get him hooked on my “digital substance”

• If someone thought it as an easy way to pass from the one situation to another

– Flying – Dead, it’s certainly at the least un-inspired if not just negative.


We shouldn’t have this kind of psychological torments in our next Sim.

We should have a more positive transition from one situation to the other, with a different graphical approach. Maybe a blurry outside view that slowly fades out to a
Screen advising you to exit the game or re-fly or what have you.

One thing that we must never have again is the negativity of the black screen.

If someone says it’s part of the realism. My reply is that we are all sitting on armchairs smoking & drinking and the pilot of the I16 can fly at 7 K without fainting
since the demo of IL2 ….. so please don’t bother …..

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Old 02-16-2010, 04:25 PM
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To be honest, regardless of what you say in the last setence, my preception of such situation is a real oposite of your wish. I would love to see not only black screen, but also here no sound at all and be unable (at least if we are talking about online) to click refly or quit or anything like that until impact to the surface!!

Next time somone will ask for receiving points for the death (ala COD) and candy from Oleg, magicaly served by the CD drive.

Simulations will never be 100% "realistic", we will always smoke and drink beer behind our desk and enjoy good fun, but still, if I am not wrong, Olegs goal has always been about maximum aproach to realism, no mather how 100% of it is unattainable.

P.S. if some one feels somehow humiliated by this presentation of unconsciesness, then there is only one suggestion: do not let your self klilled...

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Old 02-16-2010, 05:00 PM
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Offline - I don't carer.
Online - black screen and no sound is a must.

Well, black screen can be changed to cinematics of light at the tunnel end, if people find black screen to be boring; but please, no external view after death online - dead is dead and he should not be able to do recon.
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:12 PM
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Personally, I like the way sudden death is portrayed in the game. The shock of the sudden black screen really brings it home to you how many young aviators met their end - often by some stray bullet or random lump of flak. I think it is the duty of simulations like this to bring home the reality of war and get us thinking about the sacrifices made by that generation. The black screen followed by watching your slumped pilot spiral in makes that connection with reality, at least for me.
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:15 PM
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we are all sitting on armchairs smoking & drinking and the pilot of the I16 can fly at 7 K without fainting since the demo of IL2 ….. so please don’t bother …..
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Old 02-16-2010, 05:17 PM
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Online, I don't care.

Offline, dead should be dead. I don't enjoy it, but there is nothing to be done so the black screen from the cockpit is about right. I don't think it should happen so often, the as I understand it the Spitfire and Hurricane had bulletproof windscreens, and in the BoB at least the German bomber gunners had guns of a calibre less than 8mm, but when it does happen, it should be the black screen or something very like it.

The pilots of the i16 are shown with oxygen masks. In the Biggles books (I'd read the lot by the age of 13, okay?) the limit for flying without oxygen in WW1 was given as 18,000 ft. With oxygen, it would be the limits of the plane, which would depend on superchargers etc.

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Old 02-16-2010, 06:11 PM
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Sorry Gaga, but your post is one of the most ridiculous examples of political correctness run amok that I've ever heard. (I've deleted the bulk of what I originally wrote to avoid hurting your feelings)

We are discussing here a game that simulates war. War is where a bunch of guy's get together and try to kill, maim and imprison a bunch of other guys who are trying to do likewise to them, these things sometimes get unpleasant. I just thought I should point that out.

I think perhaps you've stumbled into the wrong place. Why are you not playing a nice game of foot ball where the score is not kept to avoid hurting anyone's feelings, mate?
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Old 02-16-2010, 06:56 PM
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Hi Gaga

Perhaps a graphical update to the dead pilot scenario is a good idea.

We have at present : You is dead be sure !!

Maybe it could be: Stop drinking and smoking or you will be dead soon.

Or any user warning you like
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:26 PM
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Or the message: BOOOM! Headshot!
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:39 PM
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Personally, I like the way sudden death is portrayed in the game. The shock of the sudden black screen really brings it home to you how many young aviators met their end - often by some stray bullet or random lump of flak. I think it is the duty of simulations like this to bring home the reality of war and get us thinking about the sacrifices made by that generation. The black screen followed by watching your slumped pilot spiral in makes that connection with reality, at least for me.
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I agree, the sudden black screen is shocking. I always thought the sound should abruptly cut out too, or at least fade out, first crossing over to a high-pitch ringing.
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