when do i know that im ready for first boss?

[alpinar]

i have discovered moste of the islands and i really want to kill the spiderboss wich i supose is the first 1(on devir island it is i think)...i tryed at lvl 21 but failed epic..the spiders were overswarming me not to metion that he hited me like a truck(im a mage on normal mode btw)..now im lvl24 with

about 7k -leadership
3 blackdragons
3greendragons
7 orcs
34paladins
37 shamans
my question is if i have any change or should i keep lvl upp and improve my spells and get bigger units.will be thankfull for any tip

[DGDobrev]

I'd say it's quite early, but I guess you can try with a single stack of Trolls with lvl 3 Stone skin and some poison protection gear if possible. Some teleport will help, because you need to keep the trolls in a corner so that only 2 spider stacks can hit him.

[alpinar]

ok cheers for the fast answer..just 1 more question?where do i find poison res gear?at least on wich island?

[DGDobrev]

Well, since the game is random, I can't say It may not even be present in your game... However, I usually do the bosses from lvl 40 upwards, but I guess the tactic with 1 troll stack + Stone Skin + Magic Spring and an occasional flaming arrow can do it earlier.

[alpinar]

ok then im gonna hold on a few more lvls ...tnx alot for you help ..and last but not least big gratz to lvl 60 m8

[DGDobrev]

Thanks, mate! Good luck with the bosses I suggest you hit lvl 45-50 and then have a go at them. There is no rush, nobody forces to hack the bosses very early. Besides, when you do them at a higher level, you have much better chances and you can always slap an Ancient Knowledge scroll on and reap the big XP bonus from doing a few bosses in a row (for example, Driller-Spider-Frog-Zilgadis in one go).

[alpinar]

sounds like a plan ..cheers again

[WhYdOyOuThInKtHaThApPeNeD]

1 fairly important thing to consider when fighting the Bosses. Always use an Ancient Knowledge Wanderer Scroll before fighting the main Bosses (assuming you found one or more).

I like to use my own swarming strat against the swarming spiders. When I have enough Royal Thorns so the 3rd or 4th gen spawn makes a big enough stack to compete. Flood the field with Thorns.

Summoning spells and summoners like the Demonologist can help flood the field well. A mage with higher magic and powered up summon spells can bring in quite a flood, especially when combined with any of: Demonologists, Royal Griffins, Druids, Royal Thorns, Demons, Dryads, maybe Necromancers (but I haven't used them so I dunno how well they would work to summon flood). Not all of those will be as easily available unless the Spider is left till later.

I also like range units to strike the main Spider Boss, Cyclops are great, they beat down the summoned spider minions while striking the Spider Boss hard and they won't take any losses. The Demonologist has a pretty powerful range attack. If you have enough Druids their range attack can be good. Royal Thorns have a range attack. When flooding it's good to have range units and/or flying units or it may get hard to reach the Boss Spider.

Black & Red Dragons are nice to hit the Spider or Frog minions for their fire damage and ability to hit 2 targets. Then with the Red Dragons Fire Flood range attack for the Spider Boss, even though it has to reload.

I usually like to attack the Spider or Frog Boss when most of my units can kill the summoned minions with 1 blow. I usually leave them and come back to them after getting fairly well powered up elsewhere.
I think I had at least 50 Royal Griffins which is 15,000 leadership. I don't think I'd want to fight the Spider Boss with less than that. But I'm going from memory, you may want to have more than that.
I like to fight them as early as they are possible to beat without too much loss to get the most value out of the experience gain and the funnest challenge. Like DGDobrev said, hit the Spider, Frog & Driller boss in a row (when all other battles are cleared and access to each is totally open) after using the Ancient Knowledge scroll (so all 3 battles fall within the Ancient Knowledge Scroll effect), but when you're just powerful enough to beat them all. You should get a few levels out of just those fights. Have some other good fights in mind for the remaining 2 uses of the Ancient Knowledge.

The biggest experience scores I got from non-boss battles were the hero's:
Shiva: 6,652 xp
Fangol: 7,535 xp
Hagni: 5,472 xp
Demenion: 9,671 xp
Defense Diploma: 6,983 xp (with scroll)
Rakush: 5,097 xp

I would do the Spider, Frog & Driller before getting to the following:
Uchkuk: 9,259 xp (with scroll)
Shenobi: 13,505 xp (with scroll)
Ziraks: 15,016 (with scroll)
Harrum: 13,069
Gremlion: 29,921 (with scroll)
K'Tahu: 37,401 (with scroll)

[alpinar]

im done with the spider boss and the drill machine guy..just used 3 untis of trolls and you guys metioned on other threads and it worked wonder...next i guess is the frog boss after i found those 100 lake spirits or what they are called..i have 10 red dragons,8 green,and 6 black dragons togehter with 70+ paladins and 70+ shmans..i hope this will work out on the froggy