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Old 12-09-2009, 06:53 AM
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Default Things only Mage can achieve :D

The same tactics as i said before(solo troop), but with better equipments found in Verona.

By the way, in this game i defeated Katahu at about 2 am day5, to get the last stone in Tekron need 14+5 hours so i can clear the game at day5 23:30, then i continued playing and got this score.






day7,
LV58,
0 losses,
everything seems perfect but..
How could i missed a task!!


Finally i got it , i killed this monster without having the contract at the early game>_<

that's really a unchangeble mistake.I can't play all again...


Now let's talk about game, there are 4 red dragons in Rusty Anchor Tavern so i need to reach 2000 leadership quickly, luckly there i can buy a head of +600 leadership so i won't learn lv3 golry(but lv2 is needed).

After that in Verona i found twilking boots, ancient amulet and the scale set(shiled in Verona other 2 in Debir)...how can i expect more XD

But everything is balanced, i can't find mana spring scroll even i am lv25!!!That made me learn +8 mana per round even before lv3 distortion magic...

At last i found the scoll on battle field, oh my god i missed spring too much....
So after that everything worked fine.


Here's my process of early game before i got the red dragon:

In Debir 1*4 inqusitors + Royal thron, pet dragon did half the damge(another half is fire arrow).

About the 4 heroes(3 task and 1 in casle), add royal snake to finish the battle quickly to keep 0 losses.

here i only got 750+ leadership(2 royal thron need 760..sign), so i have to learn lv2 glory.



In Scarlet island, cuz of lv2 glory, most of the enemies are not strong enough, even the have beholder and archmage..


i used 3 archmage(only can find 3),9+1 inqusitors, 17 royal snakes and 2 royal thron cleard all non-hero creeps, and got lv2 grand stratge medal.

I have enough leadership to defeat the guard of Rusty Anchor with 0 losses.(the taven had 4 royal griffins)


But i didn't done this only to save gold for the red dragon(need 40k gold total )

Then i had 1 red dragon and cleaned up Rusty Anchor except zagzag(cuz i didin't have the contract).
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My route

The first loop Debir--Scarlet---Rusty Anchor--Verona--Bolo---Debir

bring the lady back and get her task, also get the stone in Bolo.Becasue i have been to Verona no i have enough gold to buy all usefull items in Debir.

At this time i was at about lv20

The next route Debir--Verona-Montaro--Verona , finished all the task in the main land and reached about lv35.

Next, Dersu--Uzala--Elon--Nameless--Reha

and the final world loop Reha--Umakas--montoro--Verno--Montoro--Tekron--Rusty Anchor--Sclaet--Debir--Shaterra--Dersu--Elon--Nameless--Uzala--Verona

At last, i think there's still something to improve excpet the missing task.


In this game i only had 4 ancient knowledgy world scoll and no shark tooth but finally i still reached lv58,although this is the highest lv i have seen(in other's games),i believe that it's possible to reach lv59 with all exp bonus items since second time in Vernoa.

So the highest score may base on Day7+lv59. I hope someone can done this XD.

Day7+lv58 tooks me nealy 1 week about 36hours(real time) to play and killed too much of my mindcells ,
i should thank 1C company too much for this great game although i won't play KBAP oncemore, i think
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:41 AM
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Great work, undoubtedly

If you missed only the monster from the abyss quest, then you surely have the quest we are all looking for. I do hope you'll take the time some day and do a small check with the quest list in the qwest thread.

If you don't feel like it, zip your saved game before you finished the game (by talking to king mark) and share it with everyone - someone will do that for you
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:31 AM
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5 days? I don't get it and I will never get it.

I can play this game, I can win on Impossible with zero losses, but one thing I cannot do is keep the time down. It used to take me 24 days for a game of KB:TL and I expect my current Impossible Mage game will take 25+ days. But congrats to those who can do it.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:41 PM
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Same for me
The game begins with the quote that i have any time i want...
Still, a great achievment, Grats!
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Old 12-24-2009, 01:21 PM
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My route

The first loop Debir--Scarlet---Rusty Anchor--Verona--Bolo---Debir

bring the lady back and get her task, also get the stone in Bolo.Becasue i have been to Verona no i have enough gold to buy all usefull items in Debir.

At this time i was at about lv20

The next route Debir--Verona-Montaro--Verona , finished all the task in the main land and reached about lv35.

Next, Dersu--Uzala--Elon--Nameless--Reha

and the final world loop Reha--Umakas--montoro--Verno--Montoro--Tekron--Rusty Anchor--Sclaet--Debir--Shaterra--Dersu--Elon--Nameless--Uzala--Verona

At last, i think there's still something to improve excpet the missing task.
The optimal island-hopping path is always the primary key in keeping the days down.

Sadly, my work has kept me from spending any time for this game at all... any of those who have finished the game care to comment on the path above? No need to be complete masters of the game, we just need to find the optimal path QUEST-WISE in traversing the islands.

Btw, congrats to unicornxp for such an efficient run, and the resulting high score; highest so far that I know of, and no casualties is an achievement in itself, and all the more difficult in an optimal run.

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Old 12-24-2009, 01:38 PM
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The optimal island-hopping path is always the primary key in keeping the days down.

Sadly, my work has kept me from spending any time for this game at all... any of those who have finished the game care to comment on the path above? No need to be complete masters of the game, we just need to find the optimal path QUEST-WISE in traversing the islands.

Btw, congrats to unicornxp for such an efficient run, and the resulting high score; highest so far that I know of, and no casualties is an achievement in itself, and all the more difficult in an optimal run.
Hi loreangelicus, I was wondering when you'd show up here. I can't comment on your question as my best time for AP is 28 days.
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Old 12-24-2009, 02:15 PM
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Hi loreangelicus, I was wondering when you'd show up here. I can't comment on your question as my best time for AP is 28 days.
Hi Zhuangzi, nice work on the no-loss campaigns; all the sweeter now than in KBTL what with the in-game incentives of added leadership.

Work is killing me right now, I'll be lucky to put some real game play time by mid Feb... priority is family first, then work, to provide for the family and of course, to buy games and the latest tech gadgets.

Well, no need to concentrate on keeping the days low (just yet), just an insight if the path/route above could be improved on with regards to solving quests in an optimal sequence.

I'm looking at this thread as well:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=11996
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Old 01-03-2010, 05:01 AM
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Then i had 1 red dragon and cleaned up Rusty Anchor except zagzag(cuz i didin't have the contract).
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The first loop Debir--Scarlet---Rusty Anchor--Verona--Bolo---Debir
Hi unicornxp, just some clarification on what you said above: at Rusty Anchor, did you drop all other units and just used your single Red Dragon + pet dragon + spells to take out all opponents in Rusty Anchor?

I see how this could work for mostly melee enemies (and Rusty Anchor has a ton of all-melee enemies) but what about enemies with heroes? Or heavy ranged attackers?

I assume Order level 2 to get Heal level 2 is essential here?

Paladin on impossible, I got a Red Dragon at Scarlet off a Call Colossus from a duplicate navi map. I'm being hard-headed and keeping a near-full line-up so far: 3 archmages/42 priests/21 inquisitors/1 red dragon. Just cleared Scarlet and bringing with me 50 bowmen/50 pirates in reserve, and will buy 50 robbers at Scarlet (from Burges) to get the Emerald Green Dragon.

I could take out lethal enemies no problem, no-loss. But for some invincible enemies...

I checked out Bolo, the enemies there are pathetic.

I could complete the quest for the Emerald Green Dragon, then put in reserve the archmages and inquisitors (dismiss the priests). But I see some problematic enemies with the pirate ships with heroes, and 2 invincible stacks that are range-heavy.

Or maybe, as your post suggests, this path is only something a mage can achieve.

Any advise?
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:28 PM
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Tactic I used a lot which guaranteed no losses is to get just one high initiative unit as your army, archdemons are perfect for this, make them invisible in the first round, and for the next 2-3 rounds use fire-rain and death star.
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:05 PM
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But it needs hell a lot of mana i wuold say .. so its late game tactics ..
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