Is Zero Losses on Normal Mage possible in KB:AP?

cicobuff · #1 11-23-2009, 04:19 AM

Hi,

I started a normal mage in my 1st play through. Trying very hard to have zero losses. Basically came this far by sneaking and buying units from higher level islands before going back. At lvl 18 now with 4.5k leadership and zero loss so far.

But..... I am having problems now, I cant win against mini-bosses with zero loss (e.g. the Orc guarding the cave) that case mass damage spells. I also checked out the giant spider 30K hp!!!!

This makes me doubt whether zero loss is possible for a mage. Any advise? Anyone having success with zero loss normal mage in KB:AP?

Tibster · #2 11-23-2009, 04:53 AM

Lol , yes it is.

There are people here who finished imposible with 0 losses ( it was a warrior tho ... ).

cicobuff · #3 11-23-2009, 06:48 AM

I managed to find some dragons eggs on a vendor. But they hatch chickens!!!! Is this a teaser or are there dragons hidig inside those eggs?

Elwin · #4 11-23-2009, 08:15 AM

I have gave up mage with no losses .. some heroes are just too nasty with their spells to do that ...

cicobuff · #5 11-23-2009, 08:28 AM

I'm giving up also..... everything is lethal/very strong/impossible....

Even when I sneaked pass some patrols and reached the vendors. None sold anything I could recruit or use to turn the tide......

Is zero-loss on a Warrior possible on Normal? The skills on the Warrior tree dont look so impressive also. Unless the leadership and def/att attributes growth is much better compared to mage, I think I'll have a hard time too.

Elwin · #6 11-23-2009, 08:34 AM

Warrior is hard on early begginig only, ( not harder than mage anyway) when you got dive dragon skill you just start instantyl kill everything ... i know it, i play mage and my brother warrior. And we are at same point but i have to think like crazy to win any battle with no losse and it takes me lot of time whlie my brother just dive dive dive and thats alll, almost instant win... Just pump up migfht runes in rage and dragon exp ....

Zhuangzi · #7 11-23-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by cicobuff

I'm giving up also..... everything is lethal/very strong/impossible....

Even when I sneaked pass some patrols and reached the vendors. None sold anything I could recruit or use to turn the tide......

Is zero-loss on a Warrior possible on Normal? The skills on the Warrior tree dont look so impressive also. Unless the leadership and def/att attributes growth is much better compared to mage, I think I'll have a hard time too.

I am up to 89 fights without loss on Impossible as a Warrior, so I'd say almost certainly yes. Some heroes do look especially challenging though (Zig Zag on Rusty Anchor who likes to cast Geyser springs to mind). But there's always a way around it - it might mean have a particular team for boss fights (i.e. those with high hp).

cicobuff · #8 11-23-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhuangzi

I am up to 89 fights without loss on Impossible as a Warrior, so I'd say almost certainly yes. Some heroes do look especially challenging though (Zig Zag on Rusty Anchor who likes to cast Geyser springs to mind). But there's always a way around it - it might mean have a particular team for boss fights (i.e. those with high hp).

Wow I'm impressed. My mage is at about 85 battles no loss and that is only normal. I get the nagging feeling that maybe if I assigned my skills properly I can do it. But with everything at Very Strong at least, I just cant seem to progress. Zig Zag is a bitch, I just bypassed him into the cave.

Elwin's tip on the Rage + Dive combo sounds interesting. Not sure if it can produce zero loss though.

Is there a chart that indicates how much leadership/att/def defers between the classes? I am quite sad that I have to stop with this character and restart as a warrior. I thought that Normal setting was easy but this is way way harder than KB:L.

Maybe I should not aim for zero-loss on my 1st play through..... nah, zero-loss all the way!

Zhuangzi · #9 11-23-2009, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cicobuff

Wow I'm impressed. My mage is at about 85 battles no loss and that is only normal. I get the nagging feeling that maybe if I assigned my skills properly I can do it. But with everything at Very Strong at least, I just cant seem to progress. Zig Zag is a bitch, I just bypassed him into the cave.

Elwin's tip on the Rage + Dive combo sounds interesting. Not sure if it can produce zero loss though.

Is there a chart that indicates how much leadership/att/def defers between the classes? I am quite sad that I have to stop with this character and restart as a warrior. I thought that Normal setting was easy but this is way way harder than KB:L.

Maybe I should not aim for zero-loss on my 1st play through..... nah, zero-loss all the way!

DGDobrev has a thread with a ton of information in it about various aspects of the game. It's around hereabouts...but basically I think that Warrior will be significantly easier than Mage, at least to start with, because the Mage is crippled by tiny leadership (at least on Impossible). For reference, I am up to about 6100 leadership by level 14 with the Warrior, although that does count +1000 for 50 fights without loss and plenty of flags picked up on Verona and the dwarf land (forgotten its name

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cicobuff · #10 11-23-2009, 08:59 AM

Oh my gosh. With only lvl14, you have got 6+k? I am at lvl18 and is at only 5.8k, and that is also with items and flags etc.

I have a choice, either restart as a normal warrior and try again at no loss or just accept that I'll loose a few troops and soldier on. But looking at the stacks, even if I accept losses, it's gonna be a hell of a ride as a mage....