Online Unlocks

Marchochias · #1 09-30-2009, 05:11 AM

This has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find any relevant topic with the search function.

So few people play the game online that it is difficult to find any online game, let alone one in a specific mode that you want. As a result, many of the online based unlockable aircraft are extremely difficult, or even impossible, to unlock. I won't get 50 strike missions won with an aircraft because I can't even find one strike mission.

And the problem is exacerbated by the fact that if the game ends for any reason, disconnect, host leaving, etc, none of the events in that match are recorded.

Is the update going to make the unlockable aircraft all achievable through singleplayer only, or with more realistic multiplayer achievements? Because the current system makes it almost impossible to get certain aircraft and weapon loads.

MorgothNL · #2 09-30-2009, 10:13 AM

yes, the update says the 'conditions of plane unlocks will be changed'. So either it is going to be really easy to unlock them via online. But I'm 99% sure, that they mean the planes will be unluckable via singplayer.

PS.
Yes, this has been discussed 20 times before

mattd27 · #3 09-30-2009, 10:17 AM

^^Actually I didn't know about it.

Maybe that's because I lost my password to the devs forum and dont really read over there anymore. I'm actually a little dissapointed as I liked the challenge of getting the unlocks. I'm not even close to the B-17 yet, but it would have made the moment even greater knowing that I worked my ass off for it.

Ancient Seraph · #4 09-30-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mattd27

^^Actually I didn't know about it.

Maybe that's because I lost my password to the devs forum and dont really read over there anymore. I'm actually a little dissapointed as I liked the challenge of getting the unlocks. I'm not even close to the B-17 yet, but it would have made the moment even greater knowing that I worked my ass off for it.

You can still take the hard/multiplayer way

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MorgothNL · #5 09-30-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mattd27

^^Actually I didn't know about it.

Maybe that's because I lost my password to the devs forum and dont really read over there anymore. I'm actually a little dissapointed as I liked the challenge of getting the unlocks. I'm not even close to the B-17 yet, but it would have made the moment even greater knowing that I worked my ass off for it.

The fact that the B-17 was so hard to unlock, was probarbly the main reason for this fix. If some people do, and some people dont have the B-17, the strike game mode is completely unfair.

I have had 1 strike game that was a close win, the rest I won/lost with a BIG difference, just because the opposing team had more B-17s.

juz1 · #6 09-30-2009, 11:11 AM

there was a busy night on strike weekend before last...the Arado was a real good leveller against the B17...Unfortunately pretty much all B17 flyers set the room to 1943 since then...

So its the players messing it up, not the availability of B17s...
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Marchochias · #7 09-30-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mattd27

^^Actually I didn't know about it.

Maybe that's because I lost my password to the devs forum and dont really read over there anymore. I'm actually a little dissapointed as I liked the challenge of getting the unlocks. I'm not even close to the B-17 yet, but it would have made the moment even greater knowing that I worked my ass off for it.

Difficult is different than impossible.

How about making it so that you need to beat the campaign on simulator difficulty before getting a B-17? That would be tough, but at least everyone could do it if you practice enough.

I can't find the games needed to get any of the online unlocks.

Ancient Seraph · #8 09-30-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchochias

Difficult is different than impossible.

How about making it so that you need to beat the campaign on simulator difficulty before getting a B-17? That would be tough, but at least everyone could do it if you practice enough.

I can't find the games needed to get any of the online unlocks.

I agree with this kind of approach. Not impossible, but not ridiculously easy either. If you suck at SP or simulator you can still get the plane the other hard way.

Steyr_amr · #9 09-30-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchochias

Difficult is different than impossible.

How about making it so that you need to beat the campaign on simulator difficulty before getting a B-17? That would be tough, but at least everyone could do it if you practice enough.

I can't find the games needed to get any of the online unlocks.

Hopefully means we won't have to play through it again to unlock, I remember completing Fallout 3 then the next week they patched it to include trophies, which meant playing through it again...

Off course completing the Birds of Prey Campaign again would be less laborious than that, and aeroplanes are nicer than trophies

Raw Kryptonite · #10 09-30-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marchochias

Difficult is different than impossible.

How about making it so that you need to beat the campaign on simulator difficulty before getting a B-17? That would be tough, but at least everyone could do it if you practice enough.

I can't find the games needed to get any of the online unlocks.

Better to just allow people to unlock in the trainer instead of MP, or have both count.

Best: no unlocks, go through training in the campaign and fly what you want. Pilots in the war didn't have to shoot down ___ planes before they got the ordinance and planes they needed to do the job.

The game is good enough to stand on it's own without relying on gimmicks like unlocks or perks like many games have to do. Gameplay and improving your (and team's) performance is more than enough to warrant a lot of time in the game.