Official Support Group Thread for Il-2:BOP 360 Players

[Deascendent]

Earlier today, I decided to see what all else I could find on the Il-2 Bop patch, on the web. When doing a search for the 360 patch, all I could find were a few links to this forum and one stray post by a user on Gamefaqs.com. But when you do a search for the ps3 patch, there are atleast two pages full of results on google. It seems that 505 games sent out a press release on November 23 stating that the ps3 patch and only the ps3 patch was in q/a awaiting certifcation. Two and a half weeks later, the patch was released on December 7th, a monday. When I was playing BOP with friends tonight, I figured that since tomorrow will be 4 weeks exactly since the ps3 patch, and that patch was released unknown to the developers, that tomorrow we might get ours!!! A very happy thought!

But if the turn of events that preceed the ps3 patch is a clue to how the 360 patch will be released, then there will be a press release followed by two and a half weeks.... : ( So, possibly, we might be looking at another two and a half weeks plus however much time until 505 games sends out a press release.... very dissapointing indeed...

Have we not been patient enough?? This is torture!! The release of this game has been botched so badly! IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH MORE! Still, as it is, it's my favorite game, and to see the ps3 patch released a month ago, as it is today, really hurts to be so neglected.

I read earlier today on an article, that the il2 demo was downloaded over 1 million times on both psn and xbox live, but only aprroximately 300,000 copies were sold on both systems!! That is a huge loss to the ones that could have stood to make a profit on the game!!! The bottom line is that people that have played il-2 on pc and continue to, were hugely let down by this game, and have no reason to play a inferior game on a console, what a flop!!!

Anyways, I started this thread as a support group for those wanting to vent and let their feelings on the subject be heard, it's not healthy to hold in the pain, like all the admin's and ps3 users want you to, it's okay 360 brethren! I am there for you, even if it's only me, I want you to know that!

[Slomo]

I've given up the on the 360 patch, I really doubt it is coming. Thinking that way I can still play the game and not get all bent out of shape. And if it does come then I can be pleasantly suprised.

Also, from what I have seen of the PS3 patch (very little) it does not truly fix the crashing issue. It only punishes those who intentionally crash with a negative score, however I have never seen anyone intentionally crash, everyone I have played with has been very classy in this regard. It appears to do little to give a kill because you put a plane in the ground from damage.

Additionally, I haven't heard great news about the P-51D since the patch. It seems it is better but still not worth bothering with in the eternal turning clusters that usually take place. I have also not seen good things about spawn crashes, which I usually get about 2 per game.

So, in summary, my opinion is that the patch isn't coming, if it does it won't completely solve my issues with the game, and I will still play as long as there are players. The only way the patch will really help me is if it brings players back, which I think it will/would.

[Deascendent]

Originally Posted by Slomo

I've given up the on the 360 patch, I really doubt it is coming. Thinking that way I can still play the game and not get all bent out of shape. And if it does come then I can be pleasantly suprised.

Also, from what I have seen of the PS3 patch (very little) it does not truly fix the crashing issue. It only punishes those who intentionally crash with a negative score, however I have never seen anyone intentionally crash, everyone I have played with has been very classy in this regard. It appears to do little to give a kill because you put a plane in the ground from damage.

Additionally, I haven't heard great news about the P-51D since the patch. It seems it is better but still not worth bothering with in the eternal turning clusters that usually take place. I have also not seen good things about spawn crashes, which I usually get about 2 per game.

So, in summary, my opinion is that the patch isn't coming, if it does it won't completely solve my issues with the game, and I will still play as long as there are players. The only way the patch will really help me is if it brings players back, which I think it will/would.

Hmm, has anyone really reviewed the patch indepth? What all planes were fixed besides the p-51, p-47, and 190's?? And how fixed were they?

Also, you gotta remember that the patch will have black/red outs and custom mapped controls and such..

[hypertek]

perhaps the lack of popularity/demand is slowing the developers down on making a patch?

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by hypertek

perhaps the lack of popularity/demand is slowing the developers down on making a patch?

The patch is ready, it's just that MS is still in Q/A with it. Well, last time we heard, that was the case. But it's definitely made already.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by Deascendent

Hmm, has anyone really reviewed the patch indepth? What all planes were fixed besides the p-51, p-47, and 190's?? And how fixed were they?

Also, you gotta remember that the patch will have black/red outs and custom mapped controls and such..

You are right, nobody has really come out and confirmed all the updates. So Ive taken the update list of fixes (minus PS3 exclusive updates) and put confirmed for everything that has been confirmed by a PS3 BoP user, or unknown for things I haven't yet heard anybody talk about. PS3 guys if you can help us out by confirming the unknowns and adding anything extra, then I can edit this post with your info. I'm sure it would be much appreciated by all us frustrated 360 users. Thanks



•Controls remapping (custom layout). confirmed on PS3 patch but zoom doesn't work on sim
•Changed MP kills scoring system. Suicide will always reduce score; crash (or bailout) soon (one minute) after signifficant damage will score to shooter; crash (or bailout) after 12 seconds after being hit even lightly will score to shooter. confirmed scoring change on PS3 but unawarded kills still happens although less often
•Brakes with flightstick fix. Confirmed on PS3
•(For Arcade& realistic) RS will look around with 'half pressed' target camera trigger. Unknown on PS3
•More effective flak. Confirmed in patched PS3 version
•Blackouts and redouts on realistic/simulation back again Confirmed in patched PS3 version
•keyboard support Confirmed by Edal and Trk29 but available on PS3 only
•P-51 flightmodel changed Confirmed P51D,P51B,P47. Seems to revert to pre-patch when using custom control setup . Other planes Unknown
•B-17 damage model changed Confirmed (by InfiniteStates) on PS3, B-17 is now a "Tank"
•separate machine gun and cannons fire with 30% pressed trigger (on default layouts) Confirmed (by Trk29) on PS3
•MP balancing: 5 points for air victory, -1 point for death confirmed on PS3
•Enemies AI and allies AI were improved Unknown on PS3
•Condition for unlock aircrafts were changed. Confirmed on PS3
•improved sounds for stall Not fixed on PS3
•Landing brakes on flight stick were fixed Confirmed on PS3
•low lod for aircrafts tuned (to be more visible on SD resolutions) Confirmed on PS3

[FOZ_1983]

Didnt it go to MS for Q/A but fail and get sent back to 505/Gaijen or whoever it was? im sure that was what anton said.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

Didnt it go to MS for Q/A but fail and get sent back to 505/Gaijen or whoever it was? im sure that was what anton said.

Hmmm I think that was just a rumur that someone posted although it could very well be true. I don't think Anton has posted anything since the PS3 update launched. So nobody knows anything which is the problem really and why people are getting up tight. If anton or one of the other devs came here and said something like " There has been a problem, the xbox patch my come out later than you expected maybe by a month". Yes we would still be pissed off, but at least then we would have proper knowlage of what is happening and then the Constant bitching here would decrease x100.

I'm sure the developers are very busy but it takes very little time to post here or in the yuPlay forum. Even stating that you know nothing but the fact that it has been sent to the Publishers and its now out of your hands, is better than nothing at all. Its the nothing that is causing all this baddness. Please devs, give us some info and halt this badness.

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Hmmm I think that was just a rumur that someone posted although it could very well be true. I don't think Anton has posted anything since the PS3 update launched. So nobody knows anything which is the problem really and why people are getting up tight. If anton or one of the other devs came here and said something like " There has been a problem, the xbox patch my come out later than you expected maybe by a month". Yes we would still be pissed off, but at least then we would have proper knowlage of what is happening and then the Constant bitching here would decrease x100

Thats where im sure i read it Im sure it was anton who said it in one of the PS3 patch threads. I've tried looking through all his posts etc but got bored after reading the same thing over and over again.

Originally Posted by Deascendent

I read earlier today on an article, that the il2 demo was downloaded over 1 million times on both psn and xbox live, but only aprroximately 300,000 copies were sold on both systems!! That is a huge loss to the ones that could have stood to make a profit on the game!!! The bottom line is that people that have played il-2 on pc and continue to, were hugely let down by this game, and have no reason to play a inferior game on a console, what a flop!!!

Absolutely! this is the reason for I put my copy on the shelf