Me 110. Very Hard to Destroy.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all

I have about 60 hours flying the Hurricane in CoD. But I have found the Me 110 a very, very difficult aircraft to destroy or even to reduce it's effectiveness.

I have no problems destroying bombers or even the Me 109 at close quarters.

But the Me 110 even at close quarters refuses to die. It will die eventually but it seems to absorb so much ammunition.

Anybody else feel the same?


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.


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[335th_GRAthos]

Had you been flying Spitfire, I would have suggested that the difference in size between the ME110 and the Bf109 make you misjudge the firing distance and the convergence makes the bullets go astray.

But since you fly Hurris I do not know what to say...

[Frequent_Flyer]

Aim for the canopy on a Bf-110 and you will soon find you get multiple kills per encounter. The Ju-87 seems to be unrealistically difficult to take out in my opinion.

[jojovtx]

Both the 110 and JU87 are very robust aircraft. The JU87 especially so since it is designed to withstand very high G forces after pull out and I presume armored well in the event of encountering ground fire. The 110 is a large aircraft with alot of empty space for little bitty bullets to pass through.

However, being on the receiving end of a hurri and spit, more times than I really care to admit, it may look like you do no damage but I promise you I am running for home and hoping my fuel/engines hold out long enough for me to put it down safely.

I for my part don't have difficulties in downing 110ers but with 111 ... and I use the Spit. BTW also in a Hurricane one has to take care about convergence albeit to a lesser extent than in a Spit.

I have more issues with the rather weak cannon shells of the 109. I usually make my kills with the MGs rather the cannons while when reading pilot accounts the pilots seemed to have preferred the cannon for killing.

My feeling is that the MGs are quite well modelled in COD doing realistic damage now but the cannon not enough. Please don't tell me about the fire rate of the cannons, I know that it was low. My thought is rather on the damage potential of a cannon shell.

[Strike]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

I for my part don't have difficulties in downing 110ers but with 111 ... and I use the Spit. BTW also in a Hurricane one has to take care about convergence albeit to a lesser extent than in a Spit.

I have more issues with the rather weak cannon shells of the 109. I usually make my kills with the MGs rather the cannons while when reading pilot accounts the pilots seemed to have preferred the cannon for killing.

My feeling is that the MGs are quite well modelled in COD doing realistic damage now but the cannon not enough. Please don't tell me about the fire rate of the cannons, I know that it was low. My thought is rather on the damage potential of a cannon shell.

I thought the dreaded "mine" rounds came with the MGFF/M version that could fire that type of ammunition.

The ones we have now do practically no penetration damage at all because they explode on impact. The explosion itself does little more than rip off fuselage skin unless the impact is in the wingroots where the explosion can damage more surrounding surface. I'd say the right ammunition for the cannons would be armor piercing atm since the 20mm slugs would carry more momentum than the MGs. When the mine-rounds come with the new MGFF/M it should become really devastating, shredding wings etc much faster.

[baronWastelan]

Anybody else feel the same?

My experience is that your complaint is without merit. Please try to aim at the cockpit or radiators.

[Grand_Armee]

Tests by the Germans found that on average it took 4 20mm hits to down a fighter and 20 to down a four-engined bomber.

No, I don't have a website or book to back that up...I read it somewhere and can't recall where.

But, I don't think it was on Kurfurst's website.

But I too agree that I'm doing more with MG-17's than MG-FF's.

[Sven]

That is probably regarding the MG151 which was a lot better (Because they refer to 4 engined bomber)

Still the MGFF was a good weapon IRL, if you hit a radiator: it's gone, you hit the cockpit, pilot gone. And ripping off fuselage is not just a mere 'flesh' wound it unbalances the whole plane, making it slower and harder to control, that happens when only 1 round hits, now you've got 2 canons firing at 520 rmp, that should not be doing 'light' damage.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by Sven

That is probably regarding the MG151 which was a lot better (Because they refer to 4 engined bomber)

Still the MGFF was a good weapon IRL, if you hit a radiator: it's gone, you hit the cockpit, pilot gone. And ripping off fuselage is not just a mere 'flesh' wound it unbalances the whole plane, making it slower and harder to control, that happens when only 1 round hits, now you've got 2 canons firing at 520 rmp, that should not be doing 'light' damage.

You are right ... but not all the 109 had outboard canons. Let says that this is a balanced effect from devs (iinstead of two more of those excellent machine guns in place of the CoD's canons )