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IL-2 Sturmovik The famous combat flight simulator.

View Poll Results: What is the worst thing in this sim series?
Bad AI 24 24.74%
Bad sounds 30 30.93%
Immortal bomber gunners 17 17.53%
Rendering of distance 26 26.80%
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:18 AM
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Default What is the worst thing in this sim series poll

Well, after analysing the "worst thing" topic, I decided to start a poll about the same thing. So vote and, please, comment on the option you chose.
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:24 AM
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Hmmm 109
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:26 AM
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those bomber gunners are a bit too sharp..
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:00 AM
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The AI, for me not necessarily how the Ai pilots their airplane but how they behave in certain situations.

Ai squadrons are overly aggressive, they search combat much too often in situations were an ordinary human pilot would just try to save his life.

They fight if they are totally outnumbered and continue to do so even with already damaged planes until the last one has crashed or no enemy remains. Rarely I've seen planes that try to disengage and escape.

Sometimes fighters abandon the bombers they are tasked to escort just to chase a single enemy over half the map. Also as soon as AI planes have entered the landing pattern they totally ignore all orders given to them and do not defend them self anymore when they are attacked by enemy fighters.
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Old 10-10-2007, 08:21 AM
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I voted for the sound.....while not terrible, it is not at the level of the grafic's quality
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:24 AM
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Good idea a Poll..

Even if IL2 is certainly the best WWII sim ever seen ( until we fly BoB) all is not really at 100% sometimes only 99,99

Seriously

Sound is certainly the main weakness of the sim.. sound are not bas buit only acceptable.. I know talking about sound actually is a bit Hot... But obviously better sound was possible ( no doubt in BoB the lesson will be retained)

I see many fan shooting on AI.. ( quite normal.. too) but i think IA ist not so bad
As our squad by choice play coop against IA : we prefer a bit more historical situation than sport competition our goal is to act as a real squad thant to have a good kill ratio..
So we play aagainst AI all along the year..
Ok AI is not top notch , and can be strange sometime..

Maybe many probs come from mission bulding.. using groups of 4 plane cause thing like wingmen only following leader and be very passive
Using max 2 planes group or better 1 plane force the IA to be more agressive.
But i'm ok AI can be upgraded

But i think anyone can agree IL2 is the better sim i 've seen.. for WWII..
and my first Sim was Flight Simulator 1 around late 70's on Tandy TRS 80


Oopps.. i'm too old to play
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:08 AM
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Id have to go with all of the above... but ya know... if BoB was delayed 12 months Id still be flying 456 every day that I could. Warts and all it is still hands down without a doubt THE absolute best WWII flight sim available today. The AI really frustrates me the most though... and I lump the invulnerable gunners with the AI...
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:23 AM
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I voted for sounds, as said, it's not equal to the great graphics.

However, the AI, although not very bad, is not as good as it has been, was it 3.04 or 3.05?, where it was pretty good.

My complaints are:-

1] AI still get stuck in that dive and climb merry-go-round, continually as if about to attack, then climbing again.

2] AI ignoring orders, eg-" #1 bandit on your six"...im thinking great!, i've got a live one here...#2 cover me... "rgr" says #2...cannon shells zip past my CP...erm..#2 attack enemy fighters..."rgr" says #2...more cannon shells...erm...ok this is getting serious, emergency...sqd, i've got a total pratt for a wingman, can anyone help me PLEASE!!...silence

This doesent happen all the time, but far to often.

3] Far to many collisions, i realise this happened IRL, but still to often.

4] Ai inability to attack ground targets.

5]Ace mode should be very difficult to shoot down and performing incredible moves and usually requiring you to get your wingman or sqd to help you, veteran should be difficult to shake off your tail, but not as good at getting hits on you...average should be capable but resonably easy to shake with slight chance of getting a hit on you, rookie should be the ones flying level in combat zone, and struggling keeping up with his leader in combat zone, and a bad shot. IMHO

To me the sign of a quality sim/game is in its graphics/ attention to detail/sounds for immersion/AI/online, and others...IL2 Sturmovik 1946 has most of these qualities.
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:20 PM
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Sounds are pretty rancid, but as an offliner, I'm going to have to pick AI. It's hard to care whether your squadron makes it through when they continually steal kills and shoot through you

I've made this comment before, but Oleg should hire the guys who work on BoB:WoV... sensational AI.

Thank you for listening, BTW
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:28 PM
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That was the 2000th post on this forum. Congratulations!
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