I'm with ya SgtPappy. It really doesn't matter what you fly against these bad boys, though. They are a level up on us. I do believe that practise does make us better. So I'm flyin against 'em anyway! I feel like Custer sayin that! Team dogfights and lots of players in dogfight help your chances. The more targets for them, the better chance of getting kills undetected. Goin one on one is suicide. Try to avoid it. And NEVER EVER fly straight!!!!!!!!!!!