Great I hadn't realized they were directly imported from the pc games! Also your comments are very true, creative flexible thinking is what separated the greats from the rest. I guess I'm really just looking for team based tips, this will be my first squadron based experience and it sounds like a lot of folks will be taking this as seriously as one can with a game, I don't want to let anyone down. I have to assume that we will be more effective working together rather than a free for all. Which of course will happen and may be the most fun anyway