Bobb what i mean is that currently there is no news on SOW and it is going to be a long while yet, everyone was hoping/ expecting for SOW last year, it never happened. We all thought that once SOW was close or complete then we would officially get 4.09, what has happened because of the modders is that new life and interest has been blown into IL2, i think that was an opportunity that Oleg missed. For the record i did not mean SOW is dead as in a project its just that folk have got bored of waiting and have started using the mods to enhance their flying experience.