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Originally Posted by csThor
Bearcat:
Well I never called "them" cheaters or liars. I always said this development has the potential to become explosive merely by creating an atmosphere where the suspicion of cheating is enough to blow up in our faces. And of course the "provocateurs" on both sides were few and far in between.
Bottom line for me is:
a) I have experienced what uncontrolled modding can do to a community and the enjoyment I can take out of a sim (with EAW and Panzer Elite). It took away all the fun and created nothing but frustration, waste of time and frictions between people I called friends and myself. Add to this that I consider "the community" (which is in fact fractured into many tiny groups with very special interests) not mature enough to be given any tools to modify the level playing field (or did we all forget the FM flamewars?) in any significant way and you have the reason why I am seriously doubting the value of user modding.
b) I have far too much respect for Oleg and his team to use anything "from there". Call me old-fashioned, but they made the decision to keep the code to themselves and I am not going to change that policy for me.
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Thor I understand... I do.. and I agree with most of it.. other parts I don't.. but the fact that you or Lee for that matter have decided to not go the mod route in no way diminishes your appreciation for a good thing.. or makes you suckers just as my willingness to try them and appreciate them doesn't make me or anyone else who has done that a villian.
That's all I am saying. AS for Oleg & 1C....
see the post from the bottom on page one of this thread..
I dont know how true it is.. but it fits in with a lot of what we have been seeing of late. AFAIC as long as people are still buying the sim and Oleg is still working on SoW and I am still enjoying 46... I am happy.
In Copper's case... I understand the passion but it just doesn't help when expressed that way.
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Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing
I've had some recent experience talking to and working with some folks that are involved in that community. What I find refreshing is this go around for mods has quite a bit of responsibility behind it. There is an opportunity to keep things from getting out of hand. The community has a policy that states there will be no changes to the existing FMs or DMs and they won't promote or host anything that does.
In addition they are creating a standard install that will have certain criteria for submission and quality control. If they continue down this path it may get rid of the garbage that could threaten our favorite sim.
At first I was very reluctant for all the same reasons above. The fact is IL2 in it's current state is far from complete or without it's issues. That could be said for may simulations but that's a different topic. The mods could be a good thing if they are done responsible and done correctly.
Until BOB hits the streets I'm keeping an open mind and continuing to enjoy 4.08 4.09b and some of the mods. It has some really good potential to breath life into a dying genre.
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That's my stance... and Thor all the best man. So.... do they give you medicinal "herbal medications" for the nausea... ?I hope it is almost over. I am really sorry to hear that.