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Originally Posted by jameson
A.S. I am surprised that you think that Me109 was capable in the turning combat. There is general opinion that BF109 was rather average when it comes to combat with many manuevers. It`s very common opinion that BF109G with its technical and tactical characteristics was rather "hunter" then turnfighter..
I.K. Lies! Me109 was exceptional in turning combat. If there is a fighter plane built for turning combat , it has to be Messer! Speedy, maneuverable,(especially in vertical) and extremely dynamic. I can`t tell about all other things, but taking under consideration what i said above, Messerschmitt was ideal for dogfight. But for some reason majority of german pilots didn`t like turn fight, till this day i don`t know why.
I don`t know what was stopping them, but it`s definitely not the plane. I know that for a fact. I remember battle of Kursk where german aces were starting "roller-coaster" rides where our heads were about to come off from rotation.
No, seriously... Is it true it`s a common thing now that Messer wasn`t maneuverable?
A.S. Yes.
I.K. Heh.. Why would people come up with something like this... It was maneuverable...by god it was.
From here:
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php...-soviet-pilot? |
As always, maneuverability is -relative- and not just plane to plane.
Below 4,000 ft a BoB Hurricane was able to out-turn a BoB 109 given similar starts and pilots. Above 8,000 ft the same Hurricane was hopeless in a turning fight with the same. The difference was made by relative power of both at different altitudes.
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But for some reason majority of german pilots didn`t like turn fight, till this day i don`t know why.
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It's because those Germans knew that you need to keep speed up to make the fight about energy and the vertical. That is what the roller coaster is all about. Hard turns are anathema to energy fighting.