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Old 01-27-2013, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pursuivant View Post
Sorry to be stupid. Let me try again.
no problem... i think, mainly, it's my convoluted explanations of not specialist and my strange english...

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Is this a plane with a gargrot?

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww2/yak1/yak1-c6.jpg
gargrot - it's fairing of main constructions of yak (it's carcass + mount for engine + longerons, if i'm not mistaken), and of canopy of any type too... like flesh it's just fairing of skeleton and skull of man... ie, fairing can be high how here for yak-1 in 1941-1942...

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Is this a plane without a gargrot?

http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/fww2/yak1/yak1-c2.jpg
or low, how for yak-1b and similar models with "bubble top"...

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Or, does Gargrot have anything to do with the shape of the canopy at all?
gagrot there always, it's for good aerodynamic form and covers entrails of aircraft, but form depends on form of canopy of cabine ie bubble top or not...

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Further search makes me wonder if the word doesn't refer to the construction of the cockpit or to an access panel.
gargrot it's and fairing of canopy and of constructions, and panel which covers what in plane, but not panel for access of crew, ie like skin and flesh, and remember, yak have 2 gargrots - upper gagrot, behind cabine and canopy, and lower gargrot, in other places other "things" if i'm not mistaken...

and in fact, for better understanding, just need to find descriptions of type of fuselage, of yak and for example of bf 109...

and find about "monocoque" etc on english...

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I can believe that the word is of French origin, since there are lots of borrowed French words in Russian, but I don't think it's related to the word garçon. It might relate to "grotte" - which is French for "cave" (пещера - if Google Translate is right).
yes, пещера - ie for us cabine with canopy of yak, then, "пещера=cave=grotte" in carcass with various filling which covered with "gargrot", which do and aerodynamically normal form too...

garcon it's joke - just first word with "gar"...
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