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Originally Posted by Crumpp
Are you fishing and this is bait?
What was the condition of the Bf-109 and the pilot? Was the aircraft damaged? Was the pilot wounded? Was it a real spin or did the pilot pass out??
In otherwords, it is an interesting story but without the details definately does not contradict the findings of the RLM or the RAE.
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No I am not fishing
I was just reading that book and came across several instances of 109 pilots spinning in while trying to follow the RAF fighters in a tight turn.
Of course it does not say anything about the skill of the pilot(s) or state of the pilot and the plane. Maybe the plane wasn't a Bf 109 at all. Just remembered this thread and thought it was an interesting find - especially how you claim it was pretty much unspinnable because it had slats. I believe they helped a great deal but you'd have to be in perfect control of your plane. Same in the game - if you're in control and have experience in 109, you won't spin her. Good 109 pilots can be often seen maneuvring with Spitfires, all that you describe - yo-yos and use of vertical maneuvers - is already possible in the sim. I agree the Emil as too hard to recover but I don't find it too easy to spin. You can tell if your opponent is good and in control of his plane if he flies clean and makes tight turns (e.g. scissors / hammerheads) and does not drop his wing and loses control every now and then. I find that very good actually and in match with combat reports. 109 is not easy to master and requires experienced pilot to be flown to its full potential. RAF planes are easier but also, obviously, you need experience to fly them on the very edge.